Message from @CreativeRealms
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Thing is they need to distance themselves from violent thugs...
something that the Greens in Germany do not do.
this is awesome
in 10 seconds democrats will cry about being threatened by a "mob" 😉
that's not a good thing for republicans, who are trying to frame themselves as the 'jobs not mobs' party.
which is another thing that makes me skeptical about the whole thing.
november 5th they will be at the mexican/us border
just as soros wanted 😉
woah
Video of the caravan at the Guatemala border
Seems like 4000 is an underestimate.
nothing an M60 cannot solve
What's the general consensus here. For or against lethal force when they get to the border?
I'm always of the opinion of reasonable force
If they're armed it's a necessity
There's a lot of em so suppression will be hard either way
I feel like this is a very strongly calculated move
of course.
If they attack the border and are dissuaded by force then the government look like assholes and everyone shifts pro immigration, if they assault the border and get in then there's more justification for the wall but that's a LOT of illegals
It's tricky
Lethal force won’t be necessary. Not unless they get violent when we turn them back. In that case it would literally be an invading force. That’s not going to happen though.
Why wouldn't they get violent?
@CreativeRealms self preservation. I’m totally fine with responding to violence with violence. I think most Americans are.
Imagine how easy it would be to sway public opinion on building a literal wall and putting soldiers on it if they got violent. I almost hope they do. That would be a win for my side instantly.
There isn't a big buffer zone so it could be a gamble. I also highly doubt that they'd wait by the border to get checked when they get here which is the only way force wouldn't need to be used.
I imagine people like Tim would oppose any kind of lethal force even if they end up being violent. Might split the moderates.
So any thug willing to use violence to get in shouldn’t be blocked? I doubt many people will agree with that. In fact I’m positive those are exactly the people we need to keep out. Many will agree.
They are mixing in with non violent people and there are too many to sort through.
I'm sure people agree they should be kept out but they might not want to use lethal force even if they are being violent.
gonna put this here
I know we're discussing in general but this is crazy
We are discussing here too so it's ok.
We were trying to figure out if Tim would support lethal force or not. I assume he wouldn't even if it means they get through.
lethal force?