Message from @Niveron

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2018-09-28 07:26:26 UTC  

Please share a link if you find one lol

2018-09-28 19:19:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/495313664757202944/image.png

2018-09-28 19:23:23 UTC  

Cathars and Albeginsians are the same people. And they are not Christians. They taught infanticide, suicide, euthanasia etc

2018-09-28 19:24:04 UTC  

Sack of Constantinople wasn't until the 4th Crusade and resulted in excommunication by the Pope of everyone involved

2018-09-28 19:24:56 UTC  

30 Years War had nothing to do with crusaders, knights etc and didn't even happen in the middle ages. Had everything to do with Lutheran rebels

2018-09-28 19:25:45 UTC  

I bet the reddit neck beard thought that was a clever meme.

2018-09-28 19:26:51 UTC  

The war in Spain lasted several centuries and it was actually easier and cheaper to keep the occupied territories as tributary states paying gold to the Christians, until we could afford the Reconquista. In short, the Moors paid the Christians not to attack them, and the Christians eventually saved up enough tribute to attack them.

2018-09-28 19:27:50 UTC  

Teutonic vs Poland aside, most of the Teutonic Crusades were against pagans who sacrificed children, enslaved women, etc pretty much like the Muslims and the American Natives

2018-09-28 19:29:35 UTC  

Vast majority of the Crusades were fought in the Holy Land, not in Europe, making your shitty ass leftist degenerate meme unfounded

2018-09-28 19:30:39 UTC  

My closing argument is that if you actually believe anything in that garbage meme, you are a communist, leftist, faggot, nigga, degenerate, enemy of civilization and should be burned to death. And most certainly don't belong here.

2018-09-28 19:34:43 UTC  

The Mongols didn't eliminate the Muslims anyway. Many of then actually were Muslim. Prior to that, they were allies of the Christians and many believed they were in fact the fulfillment of a prophecy that a far eastern Christian king would come to aid Europe. That would be Nestorian which many early Mongol rulers were.

2018-09-28 19:35:29 UTC  

If they had really defeated the Muslim empire, the Ottoman Empire would not have lasted into the 20th century.

2018-09-29 04:47:43 UTC  

Teutonic crusades were not bout conversion

2018-09-29 04:48:16 UTC  

more like destruction overall

2018-09-29 04:48:36 UTC  

since the teutons also attacked the Poles, who invited them to Prussia in the first place.

2018-09-29 04:48:55 UTC  

Also, take every medieval source about paganism with a heavy grain of salt.

2018-09-29 04:50:15 UTC  

and the chronicles of for example Peter of Duisburg, are incomplete, since the writer himself stated that he refused to write about some events during the prussian conquests.

2018-09-29 04:50:30 UTC  

Also the teutons themselves did some pretty stupid shit.

2018-09-29 04:51:20 UTC  

example: during the Great Prussian Uprising, one teuton castle was besieged by the prussian coalition. They were pretty fucked. but they had some hostages. Guess what they did.

2018-09-29 04:51:53 UTC  

they hanged the hostages, pissing off the besiegers more.

2018-09-29 04:55:39 UTC  

I do wonder what woudl've happened if the Lithuanian-Polish coalition had taken the castles of the Teutons after the Battle of Grunwald.

2018-09-29 04:58:01 UTC  

another proof of teutonic bullshit is, that they've still attacked the former pagan parts of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, after the baptism of 1387.
But to be fair, due to infrastructure issues Christianity didn't became a dominating religion up untill mid 16th century.

2018-09-29 05:07:39 UTC  

and speaking of, The Grand Duchy was a multireligious state, but there were no religion based civil wars inside of it.
Now sadly I think, this is where all the leftist loons got their ideas of a "diverse" society, but I may be giving them way too much credit, since all they read is Harry Tosser and the Retard Wizard Posse.

2018-09-29 06:15:04 UTC  

Nothing wrong with destroying pagans and it's pretty well accepted that all pagans were barbaric. The Germanic pagans though converted peacefully for the most part

2018-09-29 06:15:47 UTC  

Teutons converted shit.

2018-09-29 06:16:05 UTC  

Lithuania receive Christianity from Poland.

2018-09-29 06:16:20 UTC  

which was an even bigger "fuck you" to the order.

2018-09-29 06:17:26 UTC  

Remember that this order was told to fuck off from both the Middle East and Hungary.

2018-09-29 06:17:41 UTC  

until Conrad of Mazovia invited them to fight the Prussians.

2018-09-29 06:17:50 UTC  

Which also backfired on his people too.

2018-09-29 06:19:01 UTC  

The only ones doing a bit of conversion to Christianity were the Livonian Order ( or Brothers of the Sword)

2018-09-29 06:19:47 UTC  

but they too were set on conquest, but got rekt hard, in 1253 and 1260 respectivelly, and never fully recovered.

2018-09-29 06:20:37 UTC  

And once Teutons themselves reformed their state into the Lutheran Prussia, their last Grand Master swore to Lithuanian-Polish King Sigismund the Old.

2018-09-29 06:21:59 UTC  

The whole eastern Crusades did lasted long, but they only achieved in exterminating the old prussian tribes, but even those fought back ,and fought back quite hard before being eventually overwhelmed.

2018-09-29 06:22:36 UTC  

Actually the Eastern Crusade lasted longer than the 100 year war between Brits and French.

2018-09-29 06:25:18 UTC  

They also had some campaigns against the Orthodox christians, namely the lands of Pskov and Novgorod.

2018-09-29 06:33:49 UTC  

And notice how I don't fully defend the old baltic faith. Reason is, very few reliable sources exist. That and our neo-pagan community is full of shit, just "balticising" Catholic and Celtic Druid rituals, whilst charging outrageous sums of money for example, weddings.

2018-09-29 06:34:51 UTC  

There are accounts of human sacrifice, as is in every pagan faith. Again, few trully objective and reliable sources exists, to fully detail it. fucking vikings got it lucky.

2018-09-29 08:40:18 UTC  

To be fair, all religion is cancer that prevents Humanity from leaping further and believing in the one true being that can actually do something to save it: Humanity itself

2018-09-29 10:42:01 UTC  

Sagif that leads to existentialism because 'naturalism' is too tough of a philosophy for most. Existentialism leads to Communism, as Jean-Paul Sartre was one. Existentialism leads to the belief that meaning and morals are subjective, and moral subjectivity leads to progressivism and degeneracy.

2018-09-29 10:43:33 UTC  

Religion is necessary for the heartfelt, and naturalism is necessary for the jaded. I am jaded.