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It's like you have to criticize the government in a specific instance, but you can't in others
So the church, to be more successful in China, needs to be more subtle and subversive then?
No
The Church in China should first be grateful it's not the Cultural Revolution or the Boxer Rebellion right now.
They need to acknowledge that for all its faults, the government in mainland China is the legitimate authority over China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Macau; there is no other.
Stirring the pot here not only pisses off the government, but also offends the sensibilities of hundreds of millions of Chinese Christians
The vast majority of the PLA are just trying to do their part and protect their people. They fight terrorism and piracy, but they also do a lot of disaster relief. All those mudslides, floods, earthquakes etc on TV, the PLA responds to all of those and saves lives. During the Tiananment incident, and this is something they don't tell you on ANY media, there were PLA units that opened fire on other soldiers, to protect civilians. And many more that simply refused to enter Beijing. Who has any right to say they are the antichrist or aren't legitimate?
Same for the police. If you Google "Chinese cops" or go to China, you will never see someone who has any authority to enforce political laws. They arrest people for murder, rape, robbery, burglary, pickpocketing, theft, fraud, drugs, etc. State Security officers are not uniformed and do not even tell their own families where they work; they're the ones who will arrest you for demonizing the party.
What right does anyone have to call them the antichrist?
Oh I wasn’t advocating calling Chinese people the antichrist.
What I meant is that the church needs to be more careful how they criticize the Chinese government. Assuming they don’t want to be thrown in jail.
No I know you aren't
They simply need to stop criticizing. These house churches are usually "My way is the only way to heaven"
Ah ok. So it’s the less doctrinally sound churches having trouble?
Yes and no. If an official church said something not politically correct they will be in trouble too. But instead of getting shut down, the priest will just lose his job most likely. You can't close a church that has 4,000 members.
Of course the church lead by a pedo commie pope would be allowed
General Kenobi!
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I'll retype later
Ah
@Andrules so we went to Christmas Mass at midnight, and in the front pew there is an obviously homeless lady sitting there. She sits and stands at all the right times (if you've ever been to a Catholic mass, there's a lot of sit down, stand up, sit again, kneel, stand, sit and so on)
But she does not face the altar at all, no matter what. Always turned around looking at the organ (on a balcony above the front door of the church)
She's mumbling and whispering stuff to herself the whole time, makes some weird hand gestures occasionally
It was creepy as hell and all kinds of weird
Probably some crazy bitch. Or possessed 🤷🏼♂️
I’ve been to a catholic service before. Was the local church in my town. Place was full and we did the up/down thing what felt like the entire service. I was like 12 or 13 at the time. Maybe younger.
So was she sitting in a pew that didn’t face the altar or something?
No she was sitting in the front row, center aisle, like as close to the altar as you could get while still sitting in a pew
It was definitely creepy as shit
Should’ve snapped a couple pictures of her 🤣
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She came out with a full head of hair. Currently her and mom are sleeping.
