Message from @saturnsrings

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2019-05-05 05:56:48 UTC  

you are viewing it in an incredibly tunnel visioned way

2019-05-05 05:56:51 UTC  

He had to face temptation and be born of the flesh to experience our pain, humble him to OUR position.

2019-05-05 05:57:05 UTC  

God can create avatars for himself, that does not mean he is limited by it

2019-05-05 05:57:05 UTC  

Chaldean, Syriac, and Maronite Catholics still use Aramaic as their liturgical language

2019-05-05 05:57:19 UTC  

And then, instead of destroying us after he survived the temptations of the Devil he took the burden of sin and lifted us from it.

2019-05-05 05:57:22 UTC  

the Angel of the Lord is seen as a theophany

2019-05-05 05:57:29 UTC  

aka a manifestation of God

2019-05-05 05:57:39 UTC  

Melchizedek is also seen as a manifestation of God, and yet he was just a man

2019-05-05 05:57:53 UTC  

God is limited by nothing

2019-05-05 05:58:01 UTC  

I need to know more of Melchizedek.

2019-05-05 05:58:04 UTC  

and that means he can take on the form of a mortal or spiritual being

2019-05-05 05:58:12 UTC  

Remus, you don't see how that's imposing limits on a being that's supposed to be G-d? G-d is already all-knowing, he need not be born of the flesh to know our plight, he designed and created all of it by just uttering the command for it to be so.

2019-05-05 05:58:13 UTC  

that does not mean he is encapsulated in flesh

2019-05-05 05:58:19 UTC  

think of it less as a body

2019-05-05 05:58:22 UTC  

and more as a finger puppet

2019-05-05 05:58:54 UTC  

We're all already his finger puppets

2019-05-05 05:59:03 UTC  

angels also do this

2019-05-05 05:59:08 UTC  

as they have no physical form or body

2019-05-05 05:59:22 UTC  

their manifestations as men in the Bible are not their true form

2019-05-05 05:59:25 UTC  

but "puppets"

2019-05-05 05:59:36 UTC  

Angels can be thought of in the modern perspective as "interdimensional aliens"

2019-05-05 05:59:58 UTC  

not even that, because aliens are still limited to a physical state, even if they may have more or less dimensions than us

2019-05-05 06:00:32 UTC  

Ok so he's not only a Jew but also a retard

2019-05-05 06:00:35 UTC  

i can tell you more about Melchizedek at a later point, btw @Iakovos

2019-05-05 06:01:06 UTC  

because i know a fair bit about him, as the concept of Theophany is very intriguing to me

2019-05-05 06:01:12 UTC  

Physical state means of the dimension we're from. Being interdimensional means they're not natively physical, and have to use some means to manifest themselves from the spiritual dimension into the physical one.

2019-05-05 06:01:48 UTC  

@saturnsrings are Christians going to hell?

2019-05-05 06:02:00 UTC  

Rag, you're a retard, having to be told I'm not a jew a billion times to still not be able to read it.

2019-05-05 06:02:00 UTC  

What is the point of Christianity being contrived if what you say is true?

2019-05-05 06:02:02 UTC  

hell is a Christian concept, so no

2019-05-05 06:02:06 UTC  

in his view

2019-05-05 06:02:16 UTC  

Hell is a Jewish concept as well

2019-05-05 06:02:20 UTC  

not really

2019-05-05 06:02:22 UTC  

it is Sheol

2019-05-05 06:02:31 UTC  

which is more "neutral" than Hell

2019-05-05 06:03:03 UTC  

Judaism and Christianity have slightly different cosmologies

2019-05-05 06:03:08 UTC  

Remus, Christians I'm not sure. They're certainly being idolatrous, which is forbidden to them. If they want to stop, they can still worship G-d and ask him to lead them, as he has lead me.

2019-05-05 06:03:08 UTC  

Melchizedek was a priest-king of a city-state near Sodom and Gomorrah

2019-05-05 06:03:17 UTC  

Perhaps the bible was edited then. I think that hell just means separation from God, whether it be eternal darkness and suffering or torture and hellfire

2019-05-05 06:03:32 UTC  

It doesn't matter.

2019-05-05 06:03:33 UTC  

the Bible, OT and NT, was edited at some point