Message from @Atkins
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The thing you have to realize about politics is that the left is diverse in it's skin tones and genders. But there is a strong conformist streak and the marching orders tend to come from a few key places that filter down.
The right is diverse in its ideas and just does a good job of hiding the divisions from view. There's a general lack of overall organization and the different sectors fight each other frequently.
Not, really.
Mostly Trump won because he was able to break the Democrats strongholds in the rust belt while not losing too much of the suburbs.
The left is pretty diverse in ideas.
The Dems very intentionally abandoned the white working class, so Trump picked them up.
It's diverse in it's *interests*
But the policy directives tend to come from only a few places, like academia.
And within those circles, the fundamental assumptions tend to be very homogeneous.
Under that logic, then the right is only diverse in interests and the policy directives tend to come from think tanks
Not really, there's business groups.
There's grassroots organizations.
There's the religious right.
The young right.
The think tanks (who generally hated Trump until very recently)
the left is so diverse in its ideas that it shuts down speakers and deplatforms people who disagree with them 🤔
The few republican faculty.
There's gun groups.
And most of these groups have very different aims and assumptions.
You mean just like Democrats? Like how they have business groups, grassroots organizations, religious left, the young left, and the few think tanks along with academia?
Only an idiot or a liar would claim the left permits diversity of opinion. The left plainly has far too much moral certainty for that.
Yeah, but the business groups, think tanks and academia are very closely aligned. The big differences tend to be in the unions, and upper class.
That splinter is what let Trump win.
The religious left tends to be kinda academic too in my experience. As in, it's centered in academic towns and tends to adopt very academic attitudes.
Also, Atkins, funny thing about that. Leftists in general are found to be censored more on university campuses than the right. http://freespeechproject.georgetown.domains/
There's also more of them.
@Ace K Yeah, Who by?
Saying they get censored more is only half the story.
The university themselves
thank you.
More to the point, I've seen 3-4 surveys and all agree it's primarily the far left doing the censoring. And almost all agree (across political lines) that the right bears the brunt of the censorship.
And sometimes the state government
Were those surveys surverying ordinary people?
And the Left wing public.
Students and faculty generally.
There's actually a very nice paper showing that the left will openly discriminate against conservatives.
Just like how conservatives will openly discriminate against liberals and the left
It is true that the left tends to get more censorship and fired more frequently, but when you outnumber the right by factors of 40-1 or more in most departments, that's to be expected.
That's not true.
The same paper showed almost no bias against the left by the right.
@Ace K I can't believe you are even trying to call the Left the victim when it comes of freedom of speech and expression. Even when it's Left getting shut down the vast mijorty of the time it's by other Leftist coz they aren't Left enough.