Message from @Poppy Rider

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2018-10-24 20:46:35 UTC  

religious left?

2018-10-24 20:46:49 UTC  

Yeah, but the business groups, think tanks and academia are very closely aligned. The big differences tend to be in the unions, and upper class.

2018-10-24 20:46:59 UTC  

That splinter is what let Trump win.

2018-10-24 20:47:35 UTC  

The religious left tends to be kinda academic too in my experience. As in, it's centered in academic towns and tends to adopt very academic attitudes.

2018-10-24 20:47:47 UTC  

Also, Atkins, funny thing about that. Leftists in general are found to be censored more on university campuses than the right. http://freespeechproject.georgetown.domains/

2018-10-24 20:48:01 UTC  

There's also more of them.

2018-10-24 20:48:03 UTC  

@Ace K Yeah, Who by?

2018-10-24 20:48:24 UTC  

Saying they get censored more is only half the story.

2018-10-24 20:48:32 UTC  

The university themselves

2018-10-24 20:48:38 UTC  

thank you.

2018-10-24 20:48:45 UTC  

More to the point, I've seen 3-4 surveys and all agree it's primarily the far left doing the censoring. And almost all agree (across political lines) that the right bears the brunt of the censorship.

2018-10-24 20:48:55 UTC  

And sometimes the state government

2018-10-24 20:49:22 UTC  

Were those surveys surverying ordinary people?

2018-10-24 20:49:28 UTC  

And the Left wing public.

2018-10-24 20:49:32 UTC  

Students and faculty generally.

2018-10-24 20:49:48 UTC  

There's actually a very nice paper showing that the left will openly discriminate against conservatives.

2018-10-24 20:50:40 UTC  

Just like how conservatives will openly discriminate against liberals and the left

2018-10-24 20:50:47 UTC  

It is true that the left tends to get more censorship and fired more frequently, but when you outnumber the right by factors of 40-1 or more in most departments, that's to be expected.

2018-10-24 20:50:54 UTC  

That's not true.

2018-10-24 20:51:04 UTC  

The same paper showed almost no bias against the left by the right.

2018-10-24 20:51:32 UTC  

@Ace K I can't believe you are even trying to call the Left the victim when it comes of freedom of speech and expression. Even when it's Left getting shut down the vast mijorty of the time it's by other Leftist coz they aren't Left enough.

2018-10-24 20:51:56 UTC  

On a per capita basis, the right is censored, harassed and fired many times over.

2018-10-24 20:52:30 UTC  

@Poppy Rider Ace is the local Antifa, SJW shill. Don't be surprised. He's generally straight Buzzfeed talking points.

2018-10-24 20:52:56 UTC  

Or maybe she. No one knows anyone elses gender around here.

2018-10-24 20:53:02 UTC  

Wow Pratel, talk about NPC talking points.

2018-10-24 20:53:08 UTC  

Yeah. I'm getting that pitchure.

2018-10-24 20:53:08 UTC  

Beep boop.

2018-10-24 20:53:23 UTC  

But They are here to talk, I'll talk.

2018-10-24 20:53:25 UTC  

I can go find that paper if you don't believe me.

2018-10-24 20:53:46 UTC  

I'm just honestly surprised by the blatant hypocrisy, especially since the dangers presented 'from the left' are vastly overstated

2018-10-24 20:53:55 UTC  

Now you're just deflecting.

2018-10-24 20:54:14 UTC  

@Ace K as an non american. My perspective of the american two part system is that the parties does function more like electoral groups. They both span a multitude of what would be considered independent parties in europe. For example i saw a yt vid claiming there are 14 distinct groupings in the US republican party, and I think the same goes for the Democratic party. I find it interesting that โ€œsocialistโ€ group in the dems is gaining power and pushing out the classical liberals, embodied by JFK. Of those that leave the majority is going independent/abstaining and a minority of the are going republican.

2018-10-24 20:54:16 UTC  

Dangers from the right is vastly overstated

2018-10-24 20:54:41 UTC  

@4AM_critter ๐Ÿ‰ that's very much how it tends to work actually.

2018-10-24 20:55:04 UTC  

Because there's only 2 parties, people with semi-similar interests tend to group up.

2018-10-24 20:55:12 UTC  

That's also why you hear about "single issue voters"

2018-10-24 20:55:14 UTC  
2018-10-24 20:55:32 UTC  

That's mostly because the parties are becoming ideologically homogenous, @4AM_critter ๐Ÿ‰

2018-10-24 20:55:43 UTC  

@Rjfenix With respect to?

2018-10-24 20:55:51 UTC  

@Rjfenix In what

2018-10-24 20:56:23 UTC  

Sorry. Phone is fucked up let me get my laptop