Message from @pratel
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The few republican faculty.
There's gun groups.
And most of these groups have very different aims and assumptions.
You mean just like Democrats? Like how they have business groups, grassroots organizations, religious left, the young left, and the few think tanks along with academia?
Only an idiot or a liar would claim the left permits diversity of opinion. The left plainly has far too much moral certainty for that.
religious left?
Yeah, but the business groups, think tanks and academia are very closely aligned. The big differences tend to be in the unions, and upper class.
That splinter is what let Trump win.
The religious left tends to be kinda academic too in my experience. As in, it's centered in academic towns and tends to adopt very academic attitudes.
Also, Atkins, funny thing about that. Leftists in general are found to be censored more on university campuses than the right. http://freespeechproject.georgetown.domains/
There's also more of them.
@Ace K Yeah, Who by?
Saying they get censored more is only half the story.
The university themselves
thank you.
More to the point, I've seen 3-4 surveys and all agree it's primarily the far left doing the censoring. And almost all agree (across political lines) that the right bears the brunt of the censorship.
And sometimes the state government
Were those surveys surverying ordinary people?
And the Left wing public.
Students and faculty generally.
There's actually a very nice paper showing that the left will openly discriminate against conservatives.
Just like how conservatives will openly discriminate against liberals and the left
It is true that the left tends to get more censorship and fired more frequently, but when you outnumber the right by factors of 40-1 or more in most departments, that's to be expected.
That's not true.
The same paper showed almost no bias against the left by the right.
@Ace K I can't believe you are even trying to call the Left the victim when it comes of freedom of speech and expression. Even when it's Left getting shut down the vast mijorty of the time it's by other Leftist coz they aren't Left enough.
On a per capita basis, the right is censored, harassed and fired many times over.
@Poppy Rider Ace is the local Antifa, SJW shill. Don't be surprised. He's generally straight Buzzfeed talking points.
Or maybe she. No one knows anyone elses gender around here.
Wow Pratel, talk about NPC talking points.
Yeah. I'm getting that pitchure.
Beep boop.
But They are here to talk, I'll talk.
I can go find that paper if you don't believe me.
I'm just honestly surprised by the blatant hypocrisy, especially since the dangers presented 'from the left' are vastly overstated
Now you're just deflecting.
@Ace K as an non american. My perspective of the american two part system is that the parties does function more like electoral groups. They both span a multitude of what would be considered independent parties in europe. For example i saw a yt vid claiming there are 14 distinct groupings in the US republican party, and I think the same goes for the Democratic party. I find it interesting that “socialist” group in the dems is gaining power and pushing out the classical liberals, embodied by JFK. Of those that leave the majority is going independent/abstaining and a minority of the are going republican.
Dangers from the right is vastly overstated
@4AM_critter 🐉 that's very much how it tends to work actually.
Because there's only 2 parties, people with semi-similar interests tend to group up.
That's also why you hear about "single issue voters"