Message from @Iakovos
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@Deleted User Do Orthodox pray the Rosary?
So you don't believe that the holy spirit proceeds from the Son because of John 15:26?
Orthodox use a knotted prayer rope called either a komboskini or chotki, with 100 knots, although prayer ropes with 50 or 33 knots can also be used
Yes, as I said, we do follow only the book without altering anything
Revisioning the new testament only leads to heresy
How was it a rivision?
Are Catholics going to hell?
And sins were forgiven through Sacrifice in the OT. Christ rose from the dead to show that death will be overcome with Christ alone. It was a miracle to prove he was the Son.
Catholics going to hell? Thats absurd to say. For the catholics part it wasn't revision but most like an error on the translation. The problem fired up when the pope legalize it though.
Revisioning was meant for the other "churches" as protestants that cut/add whatever they want just so their bible can sound "better" thus leading to heresies
Well, I will have to side with Catholics on this one. The Holy Spirit may only proceed from the Father, but Christ is still God. And God is equal amongst himself, revered above all.
It's your choice on that
but it's unscriptural
But the redemption of sins was through sacrifice, not the resurrection.
Perhaps both?
what do you mean?
Idk.
The redemption of our sins came from his sacrifice in the cross
His resurrection show us that death is not eternal nor something to be feared and that it can be defeated by following in his steps
Right. Some Orthodox would call you a heretic for that.
idk
I think they would, was reading up on orthodoxy.
It wouldn't this is what god showed us
But if Jesus is God, doesn't the Holy Spirit proceed from Him also?
And if the Holy Spirit is God, the Son and the Father is with the Spirit?
Thus I do not know that, the scripture tells us what it's. I'm not an expert on theology to be able to answer that
@Iakovos Eastern Orthodox Christians believe in a single God who is both three and one (triune); the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, "one in essence and undivided". The Holy Trinity is three "unconfused" and distinct divine persons (hypostases), who share one divine essence (ousia); uncreated, immaterial and eternal. The Father is the eternal source of the Godhead, from whom the Son is begotten eternally and also from whom the Holy Spirit proceeds eternally. The essence of God being that which is beyond human comprehension and cannot be defined or approached by human understanding
I hope that helps a little did some research to find someone that could explain it better then me
I see.
well if Christ is God I believe that the Holy Spirit can come from Him.
The Resurrection of Christ is the central event in the liturgical year of the Orthodox Church and is understood in literal terms as a real historical event. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was crucified and died, descended into Hades, rescued all the souls held there through man's original sin; and then, because Hades could not restrain the infinite God, rose from the dead, thus saving all humanity. Through these events, he released humanity from the bonds of Hades and then came back to the living as man and God. That each individual human may partake of this immortality, which would have been impossible without the Resurrection, is the main promise held out by God in his New Covenant with humanity, according to Orthodox Christian tradition.
Every holy day of the Orthodox liturgical year relates to the Resurrection directly or indirectly. Every Sunday of the year is dedicated to celebrating the Resurrection; many Orthodox believers will refrain from kneeling or prostrating on Sundays in observance thereof. Even in the liturgical commemorations of the Passion of Christ during Holy Week, there are frequent allusions to the ultimate victory at its completion.
@Iakovos Also this is about the resurrection
@Deleted User Do Catholics believe Jesus went to Hades?
Also @Deleted User Is purgatory heretical?
We do not find it heretical per se
we reject that doctrine but we do believe that some sins can be repented after death
The way of defining purgatory that is most acceptable to the Eastern Orthodox mind is to say that those who are being saved by Repentance and Baptism and participation in the sacramental life of the Church but whose sins, nonetheless, continue to create lasting effects such as passions, addictions, attachments to worldly things which inhibit their spiritual growth and progress toward theosis, are given the grace of having these lasting effects expiated so that they can receive the Vision of God. The way of spiritual progress moves beyond Baptism through three stages, Purification, Illumination, and finally Theosis. For those who die in a state of faith and repentance but before having completed these stages of spiritual progress, their eternal salvation is not in doubt, but this does not abrogate the need to pass through these stages