Message from @the good jew

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2019-05-21 10:27:54 UTC  

@Deleted User Do Catholics believe Jesus went to Hades?

2019-05-21 10:28:17 UTC  

Also @Deleted User Is purgatory heretical?

2019-05-21 10:30:34 UTC  

We do not find it heretical per se

2019-05-21 10:30:47 UTC  

we reject that doctrine but we do believe that some sins can be repented after death

2019-05-21 10:32:06 UTC  

The way of defining purgatory that is most acceptable to the Eastern Orthodox mind is to say that those who are being saved by Repentance and Baptism and participation in the sacramental life of the Church but whose sins, nonetheless, continue to create lasting effects such as passions, addictions, attachments to worldly things which inhibit their spiritual growth and progress toward theosis, are given the grace of having these lasting effects expiated so that they can receive the Vision of God. The way of spiritual progress moves beyond Baptism through three stages, Purification, Illumination, and finally Theosis. For those who die in a state of faith and repentance but before having completed these stages of spiritual progress, their eternal salvation is not in doubt, but this does not abrogate the need to pass through these stages

2019-05-21 10:36:09 UTC  

@Iakovos Also Hades for us is what call hell sometime just to clarify that not the literal underworld of Hades that ancient greeks believed

2019-05-21 10:40:15 UTC  

I know Mike.

2019-05-21 10:40:28 UTC  

Also, purgatory is scriptural as in 1st Corinthians 3

2019-05-21 10:40:36 UTC  

The entire chapter is about it.

2019-05-21 10:40:53 UTC  

So I will be joining the Catholic Church absolutely.

2019-05-21 10:41:00 UTC  

Sorry, Orthodox brother ❤

2019-05-21 10:41:47 UTC  

Thats good to hear cathobro

2019-05-21 10:44:55 UTC  

@Iakovos also if you want to give a more in-depth view on orthodox view on purgatory

2019-05-21 10:45:00 UTC  

check this

2019-05-21 10:52:11 UTC  

@Iakovos I'm also happy that you did you found out your faith again ^_^

2019-05-21 10:55:25 UTC  

If God allows that I live through this summer, I will be joining RCIA this August at my Priest's recommendations. I am extremely excited, I can't wait for summer to pass and begin catechization.

2019-05-21 10:57:14 UTC  

I wish you luck bro

2019-05-21 10:57:51 UTC  

I knew that once I came back that God loved me, and so I sought him for advice and guidance to worship him to the best of my ability. I know in my heart the Catholics worship correctly.

2019-05-21 10:58:40 UTC  

God never abandons anyone, he is waiting patiently for everyone to come back

2019-05-21 11:49:13 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/580361445779177482/FB_IMG_1558439296314.jpg

2019-05-21 11:49:32 UTC  

AS LE JOO I SUPPORT THE FOUNDING OF FALASTIYN

2019-05-21 11:56:58 UTC  

Orthodox worship is equally valid, don't deny them that. They are schismatic, not heretic.

2019-05-21 11:57:20 UTC  

Christ is literally present in the Eucharist of an Orthodox Mass

2019-05-21 11:58:32 UTC  

I think we probably believe the same thing about purgatory but explain it differently. The Catholic explanation sounds more like a place, and the Orthodox more like a state of existence

2019-05-21 12:07:04 UTC  
2019-05-21 12:07:35 UTC  

thats why we don't scrap the idea of a place like purgatory but don't accept it as a place that the souls go before go to haven

2019-05-21 12:10:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/580366714299219968/1920px-Christianity_major_branches.png

2019-05-21 12:49:29 UTC  

Your picture sucks 🤣

2019-05-21 12:49:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/580376639435964426/image0.png

2019-05-21 12:49:46 UTC  

What I see when I open it ☝🏻🤣

2019-05-21 12:50:34 UTC  

daymn xD

2019-05-21 12:50:49 UTC  

open it on original

2019-05-21 12:51:11 UTC  

On phone

2019-05-21 12:51:14 UTC  

it should look like this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/580377055141560368/unknown.png

2019-05-21 12:51:48 UTC  

Had to save it to my phone just so I can see it 🤣

2019-05-21 12:52:00 UTC  

xD

2019-05-21 12:52:12 UTC  

not my fault there 😛 The source photo was bad it seems haha

2019-05-21 12:52:40 UTC  

I'm off to uni cya all

2019-05-21 12:53:04 UTC  

So the Assyrian and oriental orthodox joined back into Catholics?

2019-05-21 12:55:09 UTC  

maybe some joined as some eastern orthodox joined the papacy