Message from @Iakovos

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2019-05-21 10:12:15 UTC  

idk

2019-05-21 10:12:24 UTC  

I think they would, was reading up on orthodoxy.

2019-05-21 10:12:36 UTC  

It wouldn't this is what god showed us

2019-05-21 10:12:45 UTC  

But if Jesus is God, doesn't the Holy Spirit proceed from Him also?

2019-05-21 10:13:06 UTC  

And if the Holy Spirit is God, the Son and the Father is with the Spirit?

2019-05-21 10:13:41 UTC  

Thus I do not know that, the scripture tells us what it's. I'm not an expert on theology to be able to answer that

2019-05-21 10:17:27 UTC  

@Iakovos Eastern Orthodox Christians believe in a single God who is both three and one (triune); the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, "one in essence and undivided". The Holy Trinity is three "unconfused" and distinct divine persons (hypostases), who share one divine essence (ousia); uncreated, immaterial and eternal. The Father is the eternal source of the Godhead, from whom the Son is begotten eternally and also from whom the Holy Spirit proceeds eternally. The essence of God being that which is beyond human comprehension and cannot be defined or approached by human understanding

2019-05-21 10:17:58 UTC  

I hope that helps a little did some research to find someone that could explain it better then me

2019-05-21 10:21:14 UTC  

I see.

2019-05-21 10:21:31 UTC  

well if Christ is God I believe that the Holy Spirit can come from Him.

2019-05-21 10:22:05 UTC  

The Resurrection of Christ is the central event in the liturgical year of the Orthodox Church and is understood in literal terms as a real historical event. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was crucified and died, descended into Hades, rescued all the souls held there through man's original sin; and then, because Hades could not restrain the infinite God, rose from the dead, thus saving all humanity. Through these events, he released humanity from the bonds of Hades and then came back to the living as man and God. That each individual human may partake of this immortality, which would have been impossible without the Resurrection, is the main promise held out by God in his New Covenant with humanity, according to Orthodox Christian tradition.

Every holy day of the Orthodox liturgical year relates to the Resurrection directly or indirectly. Every Sunday of the year is dedicated to celebrating the Resurrection; many Orthodox believers will refrain from kneeling or prostrating on Sundays in observance thereof. Even in the liturgical commemorations of the Passion of Christ during Holy Week, there are frequent allusions to the ultimate victory at its completion.

2019-05-21 10:22:15 UTC  

@Iakovos Also this is about the resurrection

2019-05-21 10:27:54 UTC  

@Deleted User Do Catholics believe Jesus went to Hades?

2019-05-21 10:28:17 UTC  

Also @Deleted User Is purgatory heretical?

2019-05-21 10:30:34 UTC  

We do not find it heretical per se

2019-05-21 10:30:47 UTC  

we reject that doctrine but we do believe that some sins can be repented after death

2019-05-21 10:32:06 UTC  

The way of defining purgatory that is most acceptable to the Eastern Orthodox mind is to say that those who are being saved by Repentance and Baptism and participation in the sacramental life of the Church but whose sins, nonetheless, continue to create lasting effects such as passions, addictions, attachments to worldly things which inhibit their spiritual growth and progress toward theosis, are given the grace of having these lasting effects expiated so that they can receive the Vision of God. The way of spiritual progress moves beyond Baptism through three stages, Purification, Illumination, and finally Theosis. For those who die in a state of faith and repentance but before having completed these stages of spiritual progress, their eternal salvation is not in doubt, but this does not abrogate the need to pass through these stages

2019-05-21 10:36:09 UTC  

@Iakovos Also Hades for us is what call hell sometime just to clarify that not the literal underworld of Hades that ancient greeks believed

2019-05-21 10:40:15 UTC  

I know Mike.

2019-05-21 10:40:28 UTC  

Also, purgatory is scriptural as in 1st Corinthians 3

2019-05-21 10:40:36 UTC  

The entire chapter is about it.

2019-05-21 10:40:53 UTC  

So I will be joining the Catholic Church absolutely.

2019-05-21 10:41:00 UTC  

Sorry, Orthodox brother ❤

2019-05-21 10:41:47 UTC  

Thats good to hear cathobro

2019-05-21 10:44:55 UTC  

@Iakovos also if you want to give a more in-depth view on orthodox view on purgatory

2019-05-21 10:45:00 UTC  

check this

2019-05-21 10:52:11 UTC  

@Iakovos I'm also happy that you did you found out your faith again ^_^

2019-05-21 10:55:25 UTC  

If God allows that I live through this summer, I will be joining RCIA this August at my Priest's recommendations. I am extremely excited, I can't wait for summer to pass and begin catechization.

2019-05-21 10:57:14 UTC  

I wish you luck bro

2019-05-21 10:57:51 UTC  

I knew that once I came back that God loved me, and so I sought him for advice and guidance to worship him to the best of my ability. I know in my heart the Catholics worship correctly.

2019-05-21 10:58:40 UTC  

God never abandons anyone, he is waiting patiently for everyone to come back

2019-05-21 11:49:13 UTC  

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2019-05-21 11:49:32 UTC  

AS LE JOO I SUPPORT THE FOUNDING OF FALASTIYN

2019-05-21 11:56:58 UTC  

Orthodox worship is equally valid, don't deny them that. They are schismatic, not heretic.

2019-05-21 11:57:20 UTC  

Christ is literally present in the Eucharist of an Orthodox Mass

2019-05-21 11:58:32 UTC  

I think we probably believe the same thing about purgatory but explain it differently. The Catholic explanation sounds more like a place, and the Orthodox more like a state of existence

2019-05-21 12:07:04 UTC  
2019-05-21 12:07:35 UTC  

thats why we don't scrap the idea of a place like purgatory but don't accept it as a place that the souls go before go to haven

2019-05-21 12:10:08 UTC  

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2019-05-21 12:49:29 UTC  

Your picture sucks 🤣