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Seriously though I do apologize.
@Iakovos Also sorry to you too, my tone probably seemed a little aggressive, not that I wanted it
It's all good.
@Iakovos So, for your questions though, it would be best to visit some different churches from cathobros to orthobros and speak with the priests there. I believe they will be happy to answer your questions
I will visit an Orthodox Church tomorrow morning.
Catholic original sin is more like a curse as a result of an individual sin
Like inheriting a disease
Not infecting yourself with it as Adam did
The same as us then, because in a sense we don't inherit the sin but only the consequences
We do not believe people are *guilty* of Adam's sin. Merely that we suffer the consequences of what he did. So the blame falls on us
Well obviously, original sin is evident as we all die.
Yeah basically
Oh so that makes sense.
Okay, then Catholics and Orthodox are in harmony with each other on that.
Our relationships are "mostly" good
If I can get past the leavened bread I will most likely join an Orthodox Church.
But if I can't, then I will continue my original plan to be confirmed Catholic.
The pope have tried to mend the relationship with our churches and in 2001 it was the first time the Pope asked for forginess to Orthodox, not something that did go too well or not too bad
Who are the 4 patriarchs at this time?
Jerusalem Pierbattista Pizzaballa (Apostolic Administrator)
Basically there are tons of patriarchs to send
Prior to the 60s did both believe the other was going to hell?
That belief still resides on most higher-ups in orthodoxism
As they see Catholicism as schismatic
So Orthodox are going to heaven and Catholics hell?
Yet Catholics are tolerant of Orthodox.
Not in that sense
They don't believe that catholics are doomed(going to hell), but their hardships befall to them because of the papacy.
From both sides have been made movements to calm the winds, especially with the Pope you guys had in 2001 and the winds are calmer
because of him trying to get on the good side of Orthodoxism
It's still not possible for a Catholic to receive communion in Eastern Orthodox church as far as I know though
In the future maybe who knows maybe Eastern and West will have a communion
Catholic Rule: Catholics can take communion in an Orthodox Church, Orthodox can take communion in a Catholic Church
Orthodox Rule: Catholics cannot take communion in an Orthodox Church; Orthodox cannot take communion in a Catholic Church
@Deleted User @Deleted User that’s my understanding of original sin as well. We didn’t commit the sin ourselves, so in that sense we aren’t guilty of it, but we do suffer the consequences of the original sin (i.e. we die)
To cause the schism... did the pope try to exert his power/authority over the east and they pulled an Anglican move and just said “lol no, we’ll be our own pope”?
Sorta kinda
Normans took southern Italy, which had belonged to the ERE
Pope asked for help from the emperor
So the emperor got an idea for east and west to fight together
But there was a guy who wanted to be Pope, whose letter was included with that