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Prayer cleanses the soul, Pain cleanses the body.
Faith without works is dead, is in the Bible
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded
I wouldnt doubt the writers read the bible
The Bible has some pretty badass stuff in it
It's more badass when purging heretics is a theme
Far be it from us to do such a thing as to flee from them. If our time has come, let us die bravely for our brethren, and leave no cause to question our honor.
The bible has it. But 40k made it into an art form
The 40k writers most certainly have/do read the Bible.
By the writing styles in the Horus Heresy books, I assume some are actually faithful Christians. Others I’d say are atheist God-haters like Richard Dawkins.
It’s all in the way they write about the God Emperor of Mankind. Some write him as the all loving master, others write him as some kind of powerful dickhead. And that’s a change between space marine chapters that stayed loyal, so it isn’t a narrator changing the tone because they turned to chaos.
@Deleted User why did the schism happen
You've heard our answers a lot
Yeah but now it's more important than ever
Catholic answer: Eastern patriarch claimed primacy, Bishop of Rome said no.
Orthodox answer: Bishop of Rome claimed primacy, Eastern patriarchs said no
The Catholic answer I gave you in PM at length with a long list of historic documents, quotes, citations etc
Sounds like someone is lying.
Two radically different answers.
Well of those two answers, both are basically true.
Bishop of Rome *did* claim primacy in both cases. But according to Catholics, his predecessors had already claimed it a million times and it was established doctrine from the beginning, which is what all those historic documents I sent you are evidence of.
The Orthodox position is that Rome had not claimed it before
@Andrules To be honest I did not read your thing instead I watched this.
Now it even said in this video that a 'myth' that the Patriarch of Constantinople is somehow the 'Pope' of the Eastern Churches.
Start at 11:50
I don't know, this schism business makes it hard to find the One True Church of God.
@Deleted User what is your interpretation of 1st Corinthians 5:6-8
@Deleted User yours as well.
The Orthodox Church use leavened bread because there is a greek word that differentiates leavened from unleavened, and the bread that Christ used in the last supper used the Greek word for normal bread, yet Latin Catholics use unleavened bread. Why?
ολως ακουεται εν υμιν πορνεια και τοιαυτη πορνεια ητις ουδε εν τοις εθνεσιν ονομαζεται ωστε γυναικα τινα του πατρος εχειν
2 και υμεις πεφυσιωμενοι εστε και ουχι μαλλον επενθησατε ινα εξαρθη εκ μεσου υμων ο το εργον τουτο ποιησας
3 εγω μεν γαρ ως απων τω σωματι παρων δε τω πνευματι ηδη κεκρικα ως παρων τον ουτως τουτο κατεργασαμενον
4 εν τω ονοματι του κυριου ημων ιησου χριστου συναχθεντων υμων και του εμου πνευματος συν τη δυναμει του κυριου ημων ιησου χριστου
5 παραδουναι τον τοιουτον τω σατανα εις ολεθρον της σαρκος ινα το πνευμα σωθη εν τη ημερα του κυριου ιησου
6 ου καλον το καυχημα υμων ουκ οιδατε οτι μικρα ζυμη ολον το φυραμα ζυμοι
7 εκκαθαρατε ουν την παλαιαν ζυμην ινα ητε νεον φυραμα καθως εστε αζυμοι και γαρ το πασχα ημων υπερ ημων ετυθη χριστος
8 ωστε εορταζωμεν μη εν ζυμη παλαια μηδε εν ζυμη κακιας και πονηριας αλλ εν αζυμοις ειλικρινειας και αληθειας
9 εγραψα υμιν εν τη επιστολη μη συναναμιγνυσθαι πορνοις
10 και ου παντως τοις πορνοις του κοσμου τουτου η τοις πλεονεκταις η αρπαξιν η ειδωλολατραις επει οφειλετε αρα εκ του κοσμου εξελθειν
11 νυνι δε εγραψα υμιν μη συναναμιγνυσθαι εαν τις αδελφος ονομαζομενος η πορνος η πλεονεκτης η ειδωλολατρης η λοιδορος η μεθυσος η αρπαξ τω τοιουτω μηδε συνεσθιειν
12 τι γαρ μοι και τους εξω κρινειν ουχι τους εσω υμεις κρινετε
13 τους δε εξω ο θεος κρινει και εξαρειτε τον πονηρον εξ υμων αυτων
Translated to english:
it sounds that there is sexual immorality * + among you, and indeed such immorality * that is not even among the nations - someone cohabits with * his father's wife. + 2 And are you proud of this? You should not be mourned, + so that the one who has done this act is expelled from among you + 3 Although I am absent in the body, I am present in the spirit, and I have already judged the one who did it as if I were indeed together your. 4 When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus, and knowing that I am with you in the spirit together with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 you must deliver this man to Satan + for the destruction of the flesh, to save the spirit * the day of the Lord. + 6 Your blame is not good. Do not know that a little leaven causes fermentation throughout the dough? * + 7 Dissolve the old yeast to be a new dough, since you have not been fermented * Because Christ, our Easter lamb + was sacrificed + 8 So let us we keep the feast, + not with old leaven, nor with leaven of evil and wickedness, but with unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9 In my letter, I wrote to you that you should cease to engage * sexually immoral people. * 10 I did not mean to have no intercourse with the sexually immoral people * of this world + or the greedy ones * or the harpmen or idolaters. Otherwise, you should leave the world. + 11 But now I am writing to you to stop communicating * + anybody called a brother who is sexually immoral * or greedy * + or idolatry or abusive * or drunken + or harp, + not even to eat with such a person. 12 For what work do I have to judge them out? Do not judge them in the midst, 13 while God judges them out + + "Remove the wicked man from among you." +
@Iakovos That's the whole translation from Corinthians to English. Now for your other question. In NT when they wrote down about leavened and unleavened bread there is one small distinction to understand it. When they refer to un-leavened they refer it as azymo(αζυμος) while when the speak for leavened beard they speak about artos(αρτος)bread
In case for the supper that he told them to drink wine for his blood and eat the artos(αρτος)bread for his body.
Why does it say keep the feast?
The Feast of Unleavened Bread? As far as my knowledge, nobody celebrates that today.
@Deleted User also
I asked you too because I am considering Orthodoxy.
@Iakovos The Feast of Unleavened Bread is a judaic tradition