Message from @Iakovos
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Then you dont call us schismatica but heretics
If the Pope said this he is saying it by his own authority and it is not of God.
Authority of the Magisterium which is what the infallibility doctrine relates to declares this and it is therefore valid and a matter of faith
And when was that written?
To reject the teaching authority of the magisterium undermines all foundations of authoritative teaching and proclamation from every ecumenical council from the early church to the present, for both east and west, because that is the dogma which declares their authority
Right, so as of *right now* prior to any decision to join any Church, then I am leaning towards the Orthodox to hold that authority.
Without it then no ecumenical council even in the east, would ever have authority
But that authority was declared dogma by the Catholic Church
First Vatican Council, 1870
Right so the Church has the authority.
And the Catholic, Universal, Orthodox Church, which is the Church that Christ established, hence Church of Christ, those bishops ordained by the Holy Spirit have the authority to teach.
This means that someone is lying.
Whether it be Orthodox or Catholic.
Peter and Paul established Rome.
Other churches were established before Constantinople too
Constantinople is an equal
Not according to councils and bishops in the early church
Let me do my studying
You've been given your study material and you chose one to study and one to ignore
Lemme tell you a story
It'll be in PM, it's borderline dox material
I'm studying both.
I didn't lie
I said I'm studying both.
I'm not ignoring either.
However.
I've heard the Catholic Side.
let me hear the Orthodox side.
it's pretty simple.
if I'm to get a true understanding of Christianity I need to hear both sides, and pray to God that I can discern the truth, because only through God can I find the truth, not the lips of another man.
You niggahs getting too serious in here today.
Nuns have to take a celibacy vow right?
yes
That’s what I thought. Still a *sexy combat nun* though 😁
It is said in Revelation 21:8 that many will turn to witchcraft... In prior eras people thought this was crazy, they would laugh at the idea that people would seriously resort to witchcraft by the millions.
Heresies are raising a lot esp from 2k ++