I'm sure Tim is for strict educational control to enforce cultural norms of equality into society.

Maybe. I just know that I will never, ever apply a term like feminist to myself, that has such a disgusting stench and has been steeped in hypocrisy for more than a century.

I'd rather cut my tongue out.

@Undead Mockingbird I know what youre saying, and many who disagree with feminism as it is would argue that its just not the right kind of feminsim

The right kind of feminism does not exist.

Will women ever give their lives to defend their countries?

Our biology is not conducive to that.

As a concept, and an idea it certainly does

Personally, I don't know why you'd advocate for equality for a group that is objectively inferior.

As long as we are humans, we will be sexually dimorphic.

What's next, infant suffrage?

They are inferior only physically not in other aspects

Do this test:

If we really believed in equality, we would not separate sports by gender.

If you really believed in meritocracy, and can tell me with a straight face that you are committed to it, then everything would be meritocratic.

Why segregate boxing if it was all about merit and genders are equal?

Let the men box against women. Even in the same weight class it would be a disaster.

Would it?

We would end with a crying heap of women folks and broken jaws.

Let's find out!

Didn't a women's skull break when fighting a trans gender in mma

I was going to say, you wouldnt use a knife to chop down a tree

If people are really not just paying lip service to equality, halleluja!

Let's find out! No more Selective Service Act. No more gendered draft. No more segregeation in sports. BRING IT!

I am 100% going to back you up. Let's fucking do it.

Female guards in male prisons.

But let us also dispense with this double speak and the all the pretense.

I am for a feminism that would be brutally equal

And we can start with shared parenting, which so-called "feminist" organizations out for equality have been opposing for decades.

You are? Awesome!

>no more segregation in sports
>equality means we ignore dimorphism
Wew

We will go down in a blazing ball of fire, but the way it's going we will either way. Might as well make it fun.

Thats why earlier I was talking about women conscription

@Beemann This is exactly the kind of double speak I am talking about.

Either men and women are equal or they are not.

Conscription is fine, because you don't have to be GI

If they are dimorphic, then we cannot assume equality of outcome.

You can be equal under the law

If we cannot assume equality of outcome, then exact gender parity is nonsense.

You cannot have it both ways.

If you're talking about biological denialism they're actually not that inconsistent