Message from @Exiled Sentinel
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The big things that the Left is screaming bloody murder about Trump doing are legacy policies that Obama left on his desk when he left.
Cat, if you mean should other people be forced to pay for your care ... possibly. It depends how you arrived at this point.
I also think it should be managed by states and not the federal gov't.
10th Amendment
That said, there is a lot to be said about financing being handled at the federal level
Providing some level playing field so that states are not in a race to the bottom
As for healthcare.
Yes 😄 (okay no that's somewhat shitposting)
Having dealt with some levels of healthcare myself, I can say rather clearly that our modern system is broken beyond all words, and trying to force in a government healthcare system the way congress wants to won't work, at all.
IMO the best way to fix it is to create a bare minimum healthcare that everyone reasonably gets for free. Specifically giving certain barebones basic treatments, the kind that prevent minor problems from becoming major problems. That level of treatment should be absolutely encouraged on a universal level, and more people should be encouraged into the healthcare sector on that level to provide it to everyone on the government's dime, purely because in the long term, that would massively reduce the end-costs of treating so many people, especially when you see the absurd costs that are racked up doing late-stage treatment to conditions that could've been treated or prevented if gotten to early.
The media is pretending it didn’t even happen in the context of the bomber. Especially CNN. CNN , and other media are linking this to Trump in every way they can. It’s undeniable. They didn’t do that with the Ricin attacks.
Why do you think that is ? @DrYuriMom
That’s my point. They are acting like these fake bombs are making the sky fall. But a guy sends poison to Trump and others and all we get is the cold facts.
@Exiled Sentinel , because they don't like Trump? Is that what you want me to say. Okay, I'll bite.
I've been saying from the first statement that I see this lone actor the same way I view the Scalise shooter. As a lone actor driven by rhetoric to act.
We should talk about both in the same breath and hold both Dems and Republicans accountable for adding some civility to the discourse
But it has to start with the President of the United States who needs to start acting his Office
(IMHO)
Only one side is saying we can’t be civil.
Now, extended treatments, costly treatments, additional coverages, the kind of thing that the current healthcare system, privatized, covers, can remain privatized. Though that too deserves a MASSIVE overhaul. In particular, I think every doctor needs to be rated and the public should know what they're getting when they go to any given doctor. If such a system was advanced, you would very quickly have the best of the best doctors start getting appropriately well compensated, while less capable doctors are shuffled into the realm of cheap treatment for the masses that have little to no coverage.
No, the President is saying it too
Fake News
Prove it
Oh, for heaven's sake. I've listen to his rallys.
He says he'll pay legal fees
He's saying to beat people up
Lamenting we can't beat protesters anymore
In 2016 in one situation. Anything during his presidency?
Cat, only in defense ... you keep saying this line that is not true.
He’s said the opposite many times. And the Dems are currently saying that civility isn’t possible
*cackles* @Exiled Sentinel - I'm going to fully agree with @DrYuriMom On that one. Even if he's doing it for hyperbole, he does have that particular brand of inciting a little touchy roughness.
He did recently praise the bodyslamming of a journalist, so don't go there about it just being "one situation" and "in 2016"
Did he specifically praise him for that? Nope.
... really? Do I need to get the exact quote now?
Only Dems are pushing for people to be attacked.
Regardless my point still stands on the Ricin/bomber media coverage.
Back to Tom's last healthcare post, I won't disagree about public quality measures. I embrace them. My health system is even willing to be paid based on them. Then again we're one of the top health care organizations in the nation and all our hospitals were rated 5 stars by Medicare. 😃
"Any guy that can do a bodyslam, he's my kinda..." - That is very much in support of it, so don't even TRY to go there. Cat's got you beat on this one.
It’s clear the media only cares about violence going one direction
I think the hyperbole is going in both directions but you only see the side coming at you.
I see empowered men taking advantage of me and bigots threatening me. You see empowered women accusing you and radicals threatening you.
Real poison attack on Trump =😪
Fake bomb attack on Dems =😡
now, as I was trying to get to before getting on that derailment:
The difference is that when Trump is actually talking about greater scales of violence, as opposed to individual personal incidents.
Like riots, terrorism, and the rest of the truly crazy shit the left is calling for openly.
Whereas Trump is usually picking one or two specific incidents out in a very specific way. He's never called for anything on the scale that the left is doing, or is calling for.
So in THAT regard, Cat, I have to say, I disagree with you.
Eric holder said to kick'em when they are down, Trump said body slamming, I think any reasonable person understands that these both were metaphors and not an actual call to violence.
Eric Holder is an ass