But pick one or the other

no, I'm done arguing, you just hate Japan and are willing to completely ignore historical record and the current international recognition of soverignty because you hate Japan.

The Kuril Islands are not Japanese. Just who they belong to, I don't know, it depends on if you're going to recognize the Soviet and succeeding Russian claim or not

Because Japan gave up all conquered territory in 1945 including Liancourt, Diaoyu, Kuril, etc

It's not about hate or not

But in 71 they got it back?

Then in 72 china claimed it

@Deleted User litearlly the rest of the world other than China and Korea disagree with you.

Plus it has been bough and sold by the Japanese in the last hundred years

@Ehzek there were Japanese fisheries on the island since way back

You think just because they are communist it makes it okay to take their territory. When in fact because your complete lack of knowledge on the subject, you fail to understand that a borderline NS government ruled China from 1911 to 1948 and they were the ones who those islands were taken from, and/or their predecessor state of the Qing Empire

China or Taiwan havent had a true claim in over a century

Im with Japan on this one

We gave it to them

@Deleted User you've swallowed too much propaganda. I'm not going to argue with you anymore because you've been brainwashed. The rest of the world recognizes they belong to Japan. End of story.

China had 30 years to get it back and said nothing

All maps by Japan and China prior to 1895 acknowledge Chinese sovereignty

NO THEY DO NOT

1895 clearly surrendered the islands to Japan

Then when they found a use they threw a tantrum based on 600 year old records

chinese maps recognize it as Japanes territory

you have it fucking backwards

Damn he's triggered

Well you're basically telling him we have to give texas to Mexico

I'm done, this is going to go nowhere

That isnt triggered thats Patriotism

go ask the UN who owns senkaku

Completely normal

or better yet as America

they've pledged to defend it for Japan

Japanese fish processing plant was built around 1900. Because it was given to Japan in 1895

we can go to war if you want

It was surrendered in 1945

we could literally argue about this all day an it won't change a thing

It was given back in 71

All preceding is kinda pointless in that case

@Ehzek China also didn't claim it until after the oil was found

I saw

I heard about this all when the chinese fisherman were dicking around on it and only japan responed

So do you claim ownership of Taiwan or not?

China doesnt have shit and they know it