Message from @DrYuriMom

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2018-11-02 11:10:13 UTC  

Yes, if you had models that predicted performance well enough, then it might make sense for you to "discriminate" against men.

2018-11-02 11:10:28 UTC  

But most employers have some amount of sick leave

2018-11-02 11:10:30 UTC  

Either way, discrimination means that you select based on some heuristic.

2018-11-02 11:10:45 UTC  

some,. most don't usually have 3 months.

2018-11-02 11:10:49 UTC  

its liek 2 weeks

2018-11-02 11:10:49 UTC  

For example, there is another metric that has such a predictive value, but is actually banned from being used, which is IQ.

2018-11-02 11:10:49 UTC  

maybe

2018-11-02 11:11:11 UTC  

even then, outside positions where you are rare, taking any more than a day or two is treated like you might be fired for it

2018-11-02 11:11:44 UTC  

welcome to the world most millennials grew up in. Work 24/7, the moment you work 23 hours you are fired because there is a line to replace you

2018-11-02 11:11:46 UTC  

But IQ isn't necessarily predictive. At least not alone. Smart people (IQ) with little wisdom (EQ) are a disaster in the workplace.

2018-11-02 11:12:19 UTC  

oh, you have sick days? thats great. try and take one, see how fast someone finds a "problem" with your work performance and fires you.

2018-11-02 11:12:38 UTC  

There are social skills, but IQ has been shown to be one of the best predictors for many performance related metrics in engineering fields.

2018-11-02 11:12:50 UTC  

>engineering fields

2018-11-02 11:12:53 UTC  

EQ has no firm scientific basis.

2018-11-02 11:13:10 UTC  

i'm pretty sure IQ has a very firm basis lol

2018-11-02 11:13:10 UTC  

yes, ability to do math is helpful for math related fields.

2018-11-02 11:13:18 UTC  

Yes, IQ does.

2018-11-02 11:13:25 UTC  

it's one of the most accurate predictor of future success

2018-11-02 11:13:27 UTC  

As a manager I consider it my most important responsibility to ensure my staff take their allotted time and have work-life balance.

2018-11-02 11:13:41 UTC  

high IQ is also linked to narcissism, and lower ability to get along with others

2018-11-02 11:14:02 UTC  

That said, I am much happier when they take their leave in a planned rather than unplanned manner

2018-11-02 11:14:10 UTC  

IQ has turned out to be one of the most solid predictors that has come out of the field of psychology, together with the Big Five personality factors.

2018-11-02 11:14:35 UTC  

@DrYuriMom you are also from a different generation.

2018-11-02 11:14:36 UTC  

But I've ended up in the workflow unexpectedly for as much as two weeks when we had an unexpected illness

2018-11-02 11:14:47 UTC  

I worked 21 days straight

2018-11-02 11:14:50 UTC  

Which workflow?

2018-11-02 11:14:56 UTC  

Patient care

2018-11-02 11:14:57 UTC  

a time when perhaps employees were valued, and offered incentives to actually stay

2018-11-02 11:14:59 UTC  

oh

2018-11-02 11:15:22 UTC  

now a days, after 2 years at a company most of the time, you are as high as you are going to get, you better move on.

2018-11-02 11:15:32 UTC  

Either way, I do not want to be forced by the state to do something that is not good for my company.

2018-11-02 11:15:34 UTC  

I'm a director equivalent leader for a health care system in the western US

2018-11-02 11:15:44 UTC  

If there are companies who want to hire person X out of compassion, you go ahead.

2018-11-02 11:15:52 UTC  

But there is no morality in spending the money of others.

2018-11-02 11:16:42 UTC  

depends on the company and depends on your age and the age of people in your field

2018-11-02 11:16:58 UTC  

once upon a time, you didn't eat if you were sick because you had to hunt for your dinner.

2018-11-02 11:17:14 UTC  

I'm glad we've progressed beyond that

2018-11-02 11:17:24 UTC  

It used to be if you had pneumonia you died

2018-11-02 11:17:39 UTC  

Yes, and I am, too, but society actually is completely aligned in its interestes.

2018-11-02 11:17:44 UTC  

And that women had a 1-in-5 change of dying in childbirth every time

2018-11-02 11:18:05 UTC  

If we just let a productive member of society die, instead of taking care of them while they are not productive, we lose an otherwise productive worker.