Message from @DrYuriMom
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Nothing is stopping the individuals from donating directly. If they don't turn around and donate directly to St Jude then that is their decision. The "terrible" person is the donator who is unwilling to give except through a controversial site.
And there's no onus on the link in the chain that decided to break?
yes im sure donators are the terrible people, that makes a hell of a lot of sense, why didint i think of it.
All the WSJ did was report. It would be St Jude's who would have decided they didn;t want to be associated with killStream
and insentivized donating is a pretty common occurence
That is their right
@Stefan Payne it honestly looks like a botched copy-paste job
Just as it is the right of each individual to decide whether they will follow up by donating via an alternate mechanism
were not talking about rights
were talking about ideology getting between children and charity
Sure, they have the right, but what is right isn't always laudable or socially acceptable.
I'm seeing blame on the WSJ, maybe Google, St Jude's, and nebulous "other players" but no mention that the people who are seeing their money returned can then do whatever they decide to do with it
```@Stefan Payne it honestly looks like a botched copy-paste job```
So like a standard Low Effort Mainstream Media Article 😉
No one is "stealing" anything
You can run around the streets yelling at everyone and calling them faggots, but that's not really okay.
who the fuck said there was stealing here?
This person
is that the person i shared a video about?
I'm just referring to the event and giving my take on it
You did refute a claim that, to my knowledge, no one in the discussion brought up.
It's a bit jarring.
Fair enough
In any case as a leader for a non-profit I can sympathize with the dilemma St Jude's faced here.
indeed, its almost like you needed something to argue about when your other arguements wernt effective so you brought someone else who wasent in the room who said something you could argue about that was related to the topic so you could maintain your postition
"were talking about ideology getting between children and charity" is what you said. I am responding to say that this is not the case since the money is being returned and the donors can still give directly.
WSJ may be responcible for pressuring various people into actions, they have done so in the past along with the entire mainstream media. adpocolypse. theres no proof that they were responcible or did that but i think those who do blame WSJ arnt unfounded in their reasoning
It can, that's true. But there was an action taken that, had it not been done, would have allowed the money to already be where it was going.
It did add a complication but it is the media's role to report.
as for ideology getting between children and charity, this event delayed the donations by time, that is technicly getting in the way. additionally it put hoops to jump through that naturally in terms of hundreds of people will cause a loss in donation
I't not exactly sure what the WSJ was trying to accomplish here. I can think of other things that seem more appropriate for the "illuminating light".
it IS putting idology between children and charity by making it more difficult
The the organization at fault would be St Jude's themselves and not the WSJ.
also insitivized donations are a thing, they have been a thing for hundreds of years and are very common to this day. what do you think GGDQ is?
this is basicly saying your not allowed to insitivize in this way
another example of ideology between children and charity
Oh, I know. I'm old enough to remember the Jerry Lewis Telethon.
if someone says they will break your fingers if you dont stop talking to someone even though that person didint tell you to stop talking to them is it your fault your not talking to them or is there some blame for the person who threatened you?
also this isint the fucking debate channel
All the WSJ did was report what everyone seems to agree was the truth. It is St Jude that decided not to take the money. I would say the real fault would lie with the far left that makes it so clear "if you don't stand with us you stand against us" or some such bullshit.