Kind of thought he was a Patsy for someone else but it doesn't look like it

They've really been rigging elections in all sorts of ways for a long time. I threw together a bunch of links a while back.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RXFyLewrdSuHEycKbyXbEpFmsGpkuxaRQ-nvoeUHIB0/edit?usp=drivesdk

Sedition is the proper term in his case, and he and page should be tried and hanged for it

@Andrules what's your denomination

Baptist. Currently attending a Weslyan, and grew up Methodist. Methodist went heretical, so my mom rightfully pulled us out.

I grew up Baptist

ah ok

The baptist church I was saved in was an independent Baptist church. KJV only, strict dress code.

Same

7 or so people on Sunday

The Weslyan church doesn't focus on the big Weslyan doctrines.

The Baptist church had around 100 people there most sundays.

The night time services were significantly lower. Like 20 tops

I grew up in a farming type community. So most people were tired during the week or had kid stuff to do.

I know nothing about Wesleyan except the name John Wesley

Their big thing is the possibility of losing your salvation. Also the possibility of getting to a point where you don't sin.

We believe in the first one but not the second

Their other doctrines, at least that I've been told, match up with my Baptist background.

Yeah, for catholics it's suicide that breaks you right?

Mortal sins, including suicide

So like if you were good your whole life, baptized, devout, etc and then you rape or kill someone you're done

ah ok

Unless you confess

I've heard the defenses for both, and I'm convinced by the evidence for never losing your salvation.

But for serious stuff like that the priest won't give absolution unless you turn yourself in to the police

But to me, I don't see the purpose of being over zealous for either.

ah ok. At least that's like a standard

You're not really sorry for what you did if you're still trying to get away with it and avoid temporal punishment

haha yeah

@princeofdolalmroth sedition is an incorrect term. I dont see how the definition fits

conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.

It's very vague and broad tbh.

by doing what they did, starting the investigation, painting his presidency as illegitimate

what authority was he inciting with his biased text messages?

it's not the text messages, it's what he was doing at the time

understand

that being one of the key starters of the russian investigation, which is neither the russian's fault since we have clear evidence that no vote tallies were changed

but muh ads on the social mediasz

Russia collusion is a witchhunt as the President has said

nor is it an investigation since its counterintelligence in base form

But muh Russia