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2018-09-08 06:32:15 UTC  

Tariffs of 1857, written by a Virginia senator, gave them lower tariffs than they'd seen in half a century

2018-09-08 06:32:20 UTC  

The south has become marginalized and almost entirely forgotten just as “flyover country” is almost always forgotten in politics.

2018-09-08 06:32:35 UTC  

There were no planes

2018-09-08 06:32:43 UTC  

Democrats controlled Congress until losing the House in 1859

2018-09-08 06:33:25 UTC  

And the south marginalized itself

2018-09-08 06:33:42 UTC  

63% of federal revenues were from tariffs in New York alone

2018-09-08 06:33:44 UTC  

Its production power and sophistication was far lower than the north

2018-09-08 06:34:03 UTC  

New York had what a population of 2-3 million?

2018-09-08 06:34:16 UTC  

Ehen the next biggest had 100k?

2018-09-08 06:34:18 UTC  

It’s because of population and the massive differences in what was considered desirable for them that resulted in conflict. The South was agrarian and relied on the major cash crops in order to make a suitable profit, since, unlike the North, there were fewer industries because of a lack of investment in the region.

2018-09-08 06:34:49 UTC  

Except slavery wasnt desirable

2018-09-08 06:34:56 UTC  

It was only for the rich

2018-09-08 06:35:34 UTC  

That and the fact the South has prime farming land and, well, the region becomes completely foreign and has different interests than urban areas like New York City and other Northern cities.

2018-09-08 06:35:36 UTC  

You are literally upset farmers arent as powerfull as businessmen

2018-09-08 06:35:43 UTC  

Are you a communist?

2018-09-08 06:35:55 UTC  

Note that nothing in their declarations of secession mentioned anything about tariffs.

2018-09-08 06:36:43 UTC  

Note that the problem wasn’t tariffs, but the fact that they’d had enough of being the punching bag of a highly bias system:

2018-09-08 06:36:52 UTC  

No

2018-09-08 06:36:59 UTC  

The South was forgotten and neglected.

2018-09-08 06:37:00 UTC  

Of a system they lost control of

2018-09-08 06:37:02 UTC  

In 1860, customs collected $53 million. 8% of that from southern ports.

2018-09-08 06:37:27 UTC  

Bit mah marginalization

2018-09-08 06:38:18 UTC  

They were marginal boots

2018-09-08 06:38:35 UTC  

Wow, for a bunch of Trump supporters, you really think that the South was evil because they seceded for the same reasons why the rust belt states and flyover country flipped to being red states in this election.

2018-09-08 06:38:35 UTC  

Just get over it. Its not even an argument.

2018-09-08 06:38:49 UTC  

Didnt save evil

2018-09-08 06:38:59 UTC  

Apples and oranges

2018-09-08 06:39:04 UTC  

Lincoln was the final straw of decades of being the bottom of the political ladder.

2018-09-08 06:39:05 UTC  

They werent however free from all wrongdoings

2018-09-08 06:39:16 UTC  

No, I think Davis was an evil bastard.

2018-09-08 06:39:18 UTC  

They had tons of their own

2018-09-08 06:39:28 UTC  

Bottom of the political ladder except for dominating Congress

2018-09-08 06:39:46 UTC  

Like Rags said they had congress less than 5 years prior

2018-09-08 06:39:52 UTC  

And Lincoln was a misguided person who ended up making things worse instead of better.

2018-09-08 06:39:56 UTC  

They werent oppressed for decades

2018-09-08 06:39:56 UTC  

The south seceded to keep slavery. They said so themselves.

2018-09-08 06:40:29 UTC  

And the south started the problem that Lincoln handled poorly

2018-09-08 06:40:31 UTC  

Ragnarok, if they “dominated congress,” as you say, then why the fuck do you think they had to make so many compromises throughout a short period of time?

2018-09-08 06:40:35 UTC  

Its their own fault

2018-09-08 06:40:54 UTC  

Because Jackson threatened military force

2018-09-08 06:40:56 UTC  

Because they got bought off