Message from @Ehzek
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The nullification crisis of 1832 is a prime example of how things between the regions had soured massively, since the entire crisis came about as a result of a tariff that unfairly impacts southern port cities over northern port cities. This had been done with little to no consent from the Southern states because, by the 1830’s, the North had already gotten powerful enough to begin getting their way a good portion of the time when compared tot he South. As a result, many southern states nullified the bill in question, resulting in such a major crisis that Andrew Jackson had to get involved to mediate the entire renegotiation of the tariff and tax bills in order to ensure a fair compromise.
It pissed off the rich people, who then sent the poor people to fight and die for them
Then give up slaves to reverse the tariffs
O wait the south wasnt so just as that.
It’s not just “dah rich pepol” of the south, it’s the north simply getting their way due to having more people and, in turn, more congressmen and senators than the South.
Also you dont need consent from everyone to ratify something
I dont see a problem
Tariffs of 1857, written by a Virginia senator, gave them lower tariffs than they'd seen in half a century
The south has become marginalized and almost entirely forgotten just as “flyover country” is almost always forgotten in politics.
There were no planes
Democrats controlled Congress until losing the House in 1859
And the south marginalized itself
63% of federal revenues were from tariffs in New York alone
Its production power and sophistication was far lower than the north
New York had what a population of 2-3 million?
Ehen the next biggest had 100k?
It’s because of population and the massive differences in what was considered desirable for them that resulted in conflict. The South was agrarian and relied on the major cash crops in order to make a suitable profit, since, unlike the North, there were fewer industries because of a lack of investment in the region.
Except slavery wasnt desirable
It was only for the rich
That and the fact the South has prime farming land and, well, the region becomes completely foreign and has different interests than urban areas like New York City and other Northern cities.
Are you a communist?
Note that nothing in their declarations of secession mentioned anything about tariffs.
Note that the problem wasn’t tariffs, but the fact that they’d had enough of being the punching bag of a highly bias system:
No
The South was forgotten and neglected.
Of a system they lost control of
In 1860, customs collected $53 million. 8% of that from southern ports.
Bit mah marginalization
They were marginal boots
Wow, for a bunch of Trump supporters, you really think that the South was evil because they seceded for the same reasons why the rust belt states and flyover country flipped to being red states in this election.
Just get over it. Its not even an argument.
Didnt save evil
Apples and oranges
Lincoln was the final straw of decades of being the bottom of the political ladder.
They werent however free from all wrongdoings
No, I think Davis was an evil bastard.
They had tons of their own
Bottom of the political ladder except for dominating Congress
Like Rags said they had congress less than 5 years prior
And Lincoln was a misguided person who ended up making things worse instead of better.