Message from @Ehzek

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2018-09-08 06:37:02 UTC  

In 1860, customs collected $53 million. 8% of that from southern ports.

2018-09-08 06:37:27 UTC  

Bit mah marginalization

2018-09-08 06:38:18 UTC  

They were marginal boots

2018-09-08 06:38:35 UTC  

Wow, for a bunch of Trump supporters, you really think that the South was evil because they seceded for the same reasons why the rust belt states and flyover country flipped to being red states in this election.

2018-09-08 06:38:35 UTC  

Just get over it. Its not even an argument.

2018-09-08 06:38:49 UTC  

Didnt save evil

2018-09-08 06:38:59 UTC  

Apples and oranges

2018-09-08 06:39:04 UTC  

Lincoln was the final straw of decades of being the bottom of the political ladder.

2018-09-08 06:39:05 UTC  

They werent however free from all wrongdoings

2018-09-08 06:39:16 UTC  

No, I think Davis was an evil bastard.

2018-09-08 06:39:18 UTC  

They had tons of their own

2018-09-08 06:39:28 UTC  

Bottom of the political ladder except for dominating Congress

2018-09-08 06:39:46 UTC  

Like Rags said they had congress less than 5 years prior

2018-09-08 06:39:52 UTC  

And Lincoln was a misguided person who ended up making things worse instead of better.

2018-09-08 06:39:56 UTC  

They werent oppressed for decades

2018-09-08 06:39:56 UTC  

The south seceded to keep slavery. They said so themselves.

2018-09-08 06:40:29 UTC  

And the south started the problem that Lincoln handled poorly

2018-09-08 06:40:31 UTC  

Ragnarok, if they “dominated congress,” as you say, then why the fuck do you think they had to make so many compromises throughout a short period of time?

2018-09-08 06:40:35 UTC  

Its their own fault

2018-09-08 06:40:54 UTC  

Because Jackson threatened military force

2018-09-08 06:40:56 UTC  

Because they got bought off

2018-09-08 06:40:59 UTC  

It’s because there was an imbalance of power between north and south just as, today, there is an imbalance of power between rural and urban.

2018-09-08 06:41:16 UTC  

There was a literal imbalance though

2018-09-08 06:41:38 UTC  

They werent even 10% of the country's production

2018-09-08 06:42:04 UTC  

Its like thinking people should treat dogs as complete equals

2018-09-08 06:42:13 UTC  

No, because the South was a minority region that had to be taken into consideration.

2018-09-08 06:42:19 UTC  

We aren’t a democracy.

2018-09-08 06:42:23 UTC  

We’re a republic.

2018-09-08 06:42:28 UTC  

Freeing slaves would give them actual power

2018-09-08 06:42:54 UTC  

It was taken into consideration

2018-09-08 06:42:55 UTC  

“Freeing slaves would give them actual power.”

Bullshit.

2018-09-08 06:43:12 UTC  

So you're for slavery?

2018-09-08 06:43:16 UTC  

Ok my dude

2018-09-08 06:43:20 UTC  

He's for slavery

2018-09-08 06:43:27 UTC  

It wouldn’t because, even if they freed all the slaves, they would still only have about one-fifth of the nation’s population.

2018-09-08 06:43:40 UTC  

Then they were marginal

2018-09-08 06:43:46 UTC  

Whats the problem?

2018-09-08 06:43:50 UTC  

The South was marginalized regardless of slavery.

2018-09-08 06:44:02 UTC  

Maybe the South should git gud

2018-09-08 06:44:04 UTC  

You sound like a socialist or communist right now

2018-09-08 06:44:08 UTC  

Instead of muh farms