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2018-09-08 17:40:12 UTC  

But we’ll just ignore that in order to fulfill your nonsensical narrative.

2018-09-08 17:40:49 UTC  

The North had little need for slavery to begin with. It’s why it never caught on because they didn’t have massive tracks of farmland to justify having fifty or a hundred slaves.

2018-09-08 17:40:51 UTC  

The real reason is profit margin. Slaves are cheaper than employees.

2018-09-08 17:41:02 UTC  

Hmm then why ban it?

2018-09-08 17:41:23 UTC  

If they don't really need slaves then it would mean they don't have to concern themselves with banning it

2018-09-08 17:41:33 UTC  

Because why not? No one owns any by that point, so you can just ban it and no one would give a shit.

2018-09-08 17:43:10 UTC  

Also, abolitionism became a thing right around the time those states began to ban it. Besides, it’s easier to convince people who don’t own slaves to ban the institution outright.

2018-09-08 17:44:00 UTC  

Hard to convince a wealthy plantation owner to get rid of his free labor. Instead let's just start a war with the clearly stated goal of keeping our free labor.

2018-09-08 17:44:06 UTC  

"peculiar institution"

2018-09-08 17:44:32 UTC  

If you live in a culture that doesn’t own slaves most of the time nor has any real attachment to it, it’s easier to ban it.

2018-09-08 17:44:44 UTC  

Attachment. Hmm.

2018-09-08 17:44:51 UTC  

How do you sleep at night?

2018-09-08 17:45:08 UTC  

No, more like “hard to convince a society that has lived with it on a daily basis to end it without having some form of social and political repercussions.”

2018-09-08 17:45:14 UTC  

Their attachment, the rich people anyway, was to their money

2018-09-08 17:45:48 UTC  

Social and political repercussions yes. War, that's their choice. They chose wrongly and they lost.

2018-09-08 17:46:27 UTC  

And, even then, states like New York profited from the slave trade as a result of being a major port city. So, even though the banned it, they remained an important hub of keeping it going.

2018-09-08 17:47:08 UTC  

Yet they still fought to end it

2018-09-08 17:47:12 UTC  

Social repercussions as in not actually giving them any time to adjust and change to enable a smooth transition from slavery to abolition.

2018-09-08 17:47:20 UTC  

No, they didn’t.

2018-09-08 17:47:26 UTC  

Really

2018-09-08 17:47:27 UTC  

Hmm

2018-09-08 17:47:47 UTC  

Recall the New York Draft riots of 1863?

2018-09-08 17:48:24 UTC  

They didn’t want to end the institution because they weren’t fighting for that purpose, especially the countless thousands of Irishmen drafted to fight the war.

2018-09-08 17:48:34 UTC  

448,850 New Yorkers joined

2018-09-08 17:48:44 UTC  

*Drafted.

2018-09-08 17:48:53 UTC  

We've already established 2% conscripts and 6% substitutes

2018-09-08 17:49:29 UTC  

Apparently that statistic is bullshit because 2% of an army being drafted doesn’t cause literal riots

2018-09-08 17:50:02 UTC  

New York was negative impacted by the draft the most, which is why there were major riots in New York City and elsewhere.

2018-09-08 17:54:09 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444628746788536330/488044381920821259/Screenshot_20180908-135355.png

2018-09-08 17:54:14 UTC  

Wrong again, revisionist

2018-09-08 17:58:14 UTC  

The rioters were pissed that blacks could take their jobs, and that rich people could get out of serving. A similar provision in the south was that a man with 20 or more slaves was exempt from the draft

2018-09-08 17:59:59 UTC  

Wrong again, Yankee.

2018-09-08 18:00:19 UTC  

Read the article instead of just pasting it

2018-09-08 18:00:28 UTC  

I did.

2018-09-08 18:00:32 UTC  

Read the sources also

2018-09-08 18:00:43 UTC  

And read the sources.

2018-09-08 18:00:50 UTC  

Yankee.

2018-09-08 18:03:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444628746788536330/488046679820337162/Screenshot_20180908-140258.png

2018-09-08 18:03:36 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444628746788536330/488046766126792731/Screenshot_20180908-140258.png

2018-09-08 18:03:49 UTC  

Call me whatever, better than someone who believes in slavery and lies