Message from @Stefan Payne
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though more about MGM
Another victory for gender equality. ✊
Again, nothing stops the states from making it illegal. I would hope they would do so.
It is a class B felony in Oregon where I vote and in property. It's still in deliberation in the Washington State legislature where I own property and my family are all voters. I'll see about having them all contact our representatives about returning SB 6563 to consideration and a vote.
i love how when its women being forced to do it, its "horrible", but when its men, thats just common sense.
My son is not circumcised despite his father and grandfather having been.
i am not referring to you, i'm referring to society at large
think about it, for the right its religious. to the left its only right that men are hurt. So to both sides its just common sense
Oh. Just thought I'd make that clear. I personally have a passion against genital mutilation that goes very deep.
I hope you appreciate the irony.
Oh I do. But it is the irony that is the cause of my passion on the subject.
It's a personal choice that no one should foist on a child.
Unless a child cannot effectively urinate, leave them alone until they can make thier own choice.
And live with the ramifications of that choice.
If it is legal in Michigan to cut off pieces of your infant's genitals, are there other laws that prevent you from, for instance, cutting off your infant's feet or hands? If not, why not, and if so, why are genitals excluded from this law?
Because circumcision probably. Not sure as I am not up on MI laws.
Male circumcision I should say
Its only "legal", becuase Muslims/Minoritys do it
Christians and Jews circumise boys as well.
I agree, which is why MI and other states are passing laws against at FGM.
They should all do so
```Christians and Jews circumise boys as well.```
a) that doesn't make it better
b) its worse for Females than for Boys as the boys still can enjoy fucking afterwards, the females can not
But the bottom.line is that it's not a federal issue.
There is a legitimate affliction, where the cure is penis circumcision.
My translation to ebglish: narrowation of foreskin [sic]
All the judge said is that it was not a federal issue.
I thought you all were for smaller, more limited government
This is exactly what that means
If it's not given to the Feds, it belongs with the states or the people
The Congress tried to justify thier law under interstate commerce which is ludicrous.
Not everyone here is
It's time we stopped pissing on the 10th Amendment by saying quite literally everything we do is interstate commerce
I am though
I'm just trying to figure out what legal loophole allows any form of circumcision at all, male or female.
Depends on the Issue
Is there a specific law saying you can cut off these bits but not those bits, etc.
It is a medical procedure that isn't reversible, so normally you can only do neccessary procedures.
I have no idea, really, Atkins. Again, I elected not to circumcised our son despite it being traditional in our family.
so the only thing left is religious freedom
Laws typically proscribe, not allow.