Message from @Deleted User
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"The Lord says to Peter: 'I say to you,' he says, 'that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church.' On him he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep, and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair, and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was, but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. So too, all are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?" - Cyprian of Carthage 251 AD
"In the power of the same Holy Spirit, Peter, both the chief of the apostles and the keeper of the keys of the kingdom of heaven, in the name of Christ healed Aeneas the paralytic at Lydda, which is now called Diospolis." - Cyril of Jerusalem, 350 AD
This kinda stuff is all over ancient writings from the first 500 years of the Church
@Deleted User Do you know what orthodox churches are in communion with the papacy?
@Deleted User none that I know of
If they were, then they'd be called Eastern Catholic
Unless maybe you guys call them something different
As far as my knowledge goes there are some Eastern churches (referred as Catholics though) here in Greece but there are few
In English when we say Orthodox we are talking about Eastern and Oriental Orthodox that are not in communion with Rome and split in 1054
Yeah those are the ones I mentioned last night, we call them Eastern Catholic but they kept the same liturgical rites when they returned
ahh I see
The only ones we have in America are from historic immigrant communities like Greeks
interesting didn't knew that
There's usually like ONE in each major city, maybe two
Funnily though even Orthodox has a schism nowdays with the russian church too
If an Orthodox went to one they probably wouldn't notice any difference. Except the filioque and the Pope
And our Biblical Canon is slightly smaller
They use koine Greek or latin?
About half of them use Greek
I see, well I learned something new today lol
They're from Egypt, Eritrea, and Ethiopia
There are coptics in america?
Yes
I knew for egypt etc
But most of the Coptic Catholics are in Africa
oh America is kinda diverse I see
Armenian Catholics use Armenian, and are from Lebanon
Pretty much everything between Greece and Russia uses Greek liturgy
I see,
I want to see how the schism with russia is going to end
Chaldean Catholics use Syriac, from Iraq, there's Indian Catholics using that rite also
Because right now Orthodoxism is divided a lot
And some around Lebanon
18 million ECs and 1.2 billion RCs, 1.5% to 98.5%
How do Orthdox settle those disputes without schism?
I don't even know
If two patriarchs or bishops disagree, who is right?
currently the church of constantinople has a schism with the russian church
Mostly in the byzantine era the bishop of constantinople had jurisdriction over the other churches, but after the byzantine fall they got independent
jurisdiction*