Message from @devpav

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2018-12-04 10:15:15 UTC  

ok

2018-12-04 10:15:17 UTC  

Clearly, this guy has no qualms with Chinese-levels of censorship and control.

2018-12-04 11:12:30 UTC  

as long as they are doin the censoring

2018-12-04 13:59:59 UTC  
2018-12-04 14:34:55 UTC  

People are going to keep buying Apple's shit.

2018-12-04 14:35:26 UTC  

Tim Cook could say or do just about anything and people would still camp outside the Apple store for the next gizmo.

2018-12-04 14:40:45 UTC  

I find it funny that the people who buy Apple's shit, are the ones who claim to be against everything they do

2018-12-04 14:41:20 UTC  

Same with the people who will buy Nike for that one commercial.

2018-12-04 14:41:55 UTC  

These people see only what is in front of their faces, and don't see beyond it. They are easy to fool as they are already blind.

2018-12-04 14:42:21 UTC  

Been on a bit of a cyberpunk jag lately, and I've realized that we're far more dystopian today than they ever realized. Cyberpunk protagonists had ways of fighting back.

2018-12-04 14:42:53 UTC  

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

2018-12-04 14:44:07 UTC  

The only alternatives to Apple for mobile devices are Google and Microsoft. We're at a point where Microsoft is looking like the least evil (largely due to their relative incompetence).

2018-12-04 14:44:23 UTC  

Of course, there's always forgoing mobile devices altogether.

2018-12-04 14:45:36 UTC  

But there's no guarantee that retreating into the world of the Luddite will protect you.

2018-12-04 14:46:20 UTC  

"Four Pinocchios"

2018-12-04 14:46:30 UTC  

You have to live under the power of a state, the state is under the influence of the tech giants, and the tech giants are hard lefties.

2018-12-04 14:47:05 UTC  

"Let’s put $21 trillion in context. The entire national debt is $21.8 trillion. According to the Congressional Budget Office, total defense spending from 1998 to 2015 was nearly $9 trillion. The CBO estimates $7 trillion in defense spending from 2019 to 2028.

In other words, completely defunding the military for the next decade would yield only one-fifth of $32 trillion. That’s a much better way of illustrating the cost of Medicare-for-All."

2018-12-04 14:47:27 UTC  

Even WaPo is shaking their heads at AOC

2018-12-04 15:11:00 UTC  

🤔

2018-12-04 15:15:13 UTC  

Heh, I thought antitrust laws were written specifically to prevent market power from being turned into political power.

2018-12-04 15:54:51 UTC  

>all of Android is Google
Pardon?

2018-12-04 16:47:27 UTC  

OwO whats this

2018-12-04 16:49:26 UTC  

i swear at first sight i saw tim pool

2018-12-04 16:55:25 UTC  

Same

2018-12-04 19:05:56 UTC  

some bring up a good point, can we end oil subsidies?

2018-12-04 19:07:37 UTC  

@Grenade123 Depends. When they say subsidies, they also include externalities, which really aren’t subsidies. There are some policies that do support oil/gas, but I don’t know by how much.

2018-12-04 19:08:15 UTC  

how about...we just start ending government aid to large companies across the board?

2018-12-04 19:09:05 UTC  

@Grenade123 spicy. I like it. It would piss them off though because they want support for the things they like, but not for the things they don’t.

2018-12-04 19:09:13 UTC  

Or at least some of them.

2018-12-04 19:09:18 UTC  

it would piss off everyone

2018-12-04 19:09:21 UTC  

thats why its a good idea

2018-12-04 19:09:22 UTC  

lmao

2018-12-04 19:10:09 UTC  

republicans beholden to oil, so they don't like it. dems using green energy as a political weapon wouldn't like it.

2018-12-04 19:10:26 UTC  

and large companies wouldn't like it because it means they need to start competing again.

2018-12-04 19:11:33 UTC  

I’m really not sure how beholden any part is to any particular source of energy. The decisions don’t match the rhetoric a lot of the times. @Grenade123

2018-12-04 19:23:07 UTC  

Have you done the math to determine how much the government makes back from oil subsidies by taxing the value added to petroleum by the rest of the economy? (Petroleum is an input to almost freaking everything.)

2018-12-04 19:24:31 UTC  

@devpav the EIA has shown that the subsidies that started fracking have already been paid back + a billion too.