Message from @OffensiveSaint

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2018-05-30 05:53:48 UTC  

And then atheists would try to argue that isn't true omnipotence

2018-05-30 05:53:53 UTC  

Anders Behring Breivik killed 69 communists

2018-05-30 05:53:56 UTC  

but it is

2018-05-30 05:54:04 UTC  

we are just applying our human understanding of omnipotence

2018-05-30 05:54:08 UTC  

to a concept we could never truly grasp

2018-05-30 05:54:23 UTC  

need big brain for that

2018-05-30 05:54:24 UTC  

He has the power but not the will to do so

2018-05-30 05:54:41 UTC  

then he got a 21 year sentence in prison for killing COMMUNISTS

2018-05-30 05:54:42 UTC  

ROFL

2018-05-30 05:54:51 UTC  

Also he has always existed

2018-05-30 05:55:23 UTC  

Even before the universe which means he has no start

2018-05-30 05:55:40 UTC  

as they say time didn't exist before universe

2018-05-30 05:55:49 UTC  

Right

2018-05-30 05:55:53 UTC  

Thats my point

2018-05-30 05:55:55 UTC  

space-time rather

2018-05-30 05:56:06 UTC  

yes, and for God to truly be God

2018-05-30 05:56:12 UTC  

he has to exist outside of spacetime

2018-05-30 05:56:18 UTC  

and outside of gravity

2018-05-30 05:57:08 UTC  

True

2018-05-30 05:57:11 UTC  

Most of this vaguely touched in the old treatment

2018-05-30 05:57:26 UTC  

psalms talks about it a bit

2018-05-30 05:57:36 UTC  

the prime mover?

2018-05-30 05:58:37 UTC  

For example
God will not forgive you if you do not forgive
Therefore god cannot do something

2018-05-30 05:59:29 UTC  

seems to me like a question of judgement and not inability

2018-05-30 05:59:42 UTC  

will not

2018-05-30 06:00:10 UTC  

Like i said he cannot lie

2018-05-30 06:00:37 UTC  

Therefore he cannot do something

2018-05-30 06:01:34 UTC  

Didn't God by creating free will allow evil? Therefore he indirectly created evil because he loves his children and wants them to have agency?

2018-05-30 06:02:12 UTC  

I don't go much into understanding the nature of God but I don't think its about that he can not do it but rather is unwilling

2018-05-30 06:02:22 UTC  

You don't have free will

2018-05-30 06:02:27 UTC  

You are just temped by flesh

2018-05-30 06:03:02 UTC  

To follow god is to be "controlled" by his will

2018-05-30 06:03:19 UTC  

its not that he can not forgive you but he will not forgive you if you can't forgive urself

2018-05-30 06:03:37 UTC  

Not yourself others

2018-05-30 06:03:48 UTC  

used it royaly

2018-05-30 06:03:48 UTC  

For example you steal from me

2018-05-30 06:03:52 UTC  

93 cutlural marxists

2018-05-30 06:03:54 UTC  

as in give forgivness

2018-05-30 06:03:55 UTC  

BTFO muzzies

2018-05-30 06:04:38 UTC  

God doesn't care if you dont forgive yourself