That's why the left has "diversity of tactics"

its not "useful", its addictive.

But more importantly, there's specific actions they want.

Like, almost the entire left wants to see McInnes go away.

so stablishing clear goals and the line which will not be crossed is essential

twitter has proven to be more of a liability to any company than a help.

So any action to apply pressure to the social media companies is good.

including mass flaggings

its almost better for any company to flat out bar any employee from having social media if that employee can be tracked back to the company

contancting advertisers

mobbing

etc?

@Grenade123 Disagree strongly. If it were, you'd see fewer companies on it and more companies banning their employees from using it.

we need to deine the line

Agreed.

how do you ban social media without banning all forms of public communication on the internet? how is social media different from the forums and BBS of old?

And some lines should only be crossed as a last resort.

Forums had one head

as soon as the head is comprimised the forum falls

look at NEogaf

as soon as the owner got outed

Neogaf died

@pratel and how has that been working out for companies? forced to bend to the mob. How many customers does twitter really rake in who are not already fans?

i can;t think of a single company twitter i use for more than just their news letter. which just means i go to twitter and have to search up their tags rather than go their website

See, this is what I mean. Either they don't see it that way, you're wrong (there's a strong messaging and brand loyalty element) or you're just making excuses.

@angeryer If you're a company, you make it company policy that if the boss can find your social media account publicly you get the boot. Most places already will fire people for posting things that put the company in a bad light. The US Government is even more strict.

or we disagree on the level social media is relevant.

If it wasn't relevant. We wouldn't exactly be arguing.

i mean, its a real good tool for advertisers because its tricked people into giving up private data for free.

How relevant do you see social media? because it seems to sway a lot of public opinion

Well yeah, but my question is still how do you get rid of social media without getting rid of the ability to talk publicly online? It seems like an impossible goal, plus tone deaf because everyone and their mom wants to use social media. You're better off trying to fix it.

It's also huge for political organizing.

Which has helped the far left tremendously.

@angeryer i've offered removing the protections that allow for censorship and protection from lawsuits for what is published on their platform. IT allows them to act like a publisher with the protections of a platform.

And the issue is that that would just lead to more censorship as proposed.

has it helped the far left? how many nationalist groups are now on the rise despite their efforts on social media?

@Grenade123 name 3 that are on the rise

Trump, Yellow Jacks, Poland has been marching with anticommunsit and anti-nazi flags together, Brexit

smaller EU countries pushing back against the EU

and how many of those have been incrementing because of social media?

perhaps not all nationalist, but certainly not far-left