Message from @DrYuriMom

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2019-01-13 23:29:43 UTC  

And again, we in the US have these glorious things called juries. Beyond that, we have layers upon layers of appeals.

2019-01-13 23:29:53 UTC  

true

2019-01-13 23:30:08 UTC  

Reverse is also an option. Driving into a very large crowd to "get away" is a horrible idea. It's a good way to get stuck on bodies assuming you don't crash to start with.

2019-01-13 23:30:22 UTC  

Particularly if you have a sports car

2019-01-13 23:30:37 UTC  

Driving into anything not going to work out for you.

2019-01-13 23:30:55 UTC  

I guess they call it a Charger for a reason <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2019-01-13 23:31:05 UTC  

And in any case, there were cars beyond so he wasn't getting away that way anyway

2019-01-13 23:31:43 UTC  

He had some Mental conditions as well

2019-01-13 23:31:58 UTC  

Something really serious (I forgot)

2019-01-13 23:32:07 UTC  

The court would have taken that into account

2019-01-13 23:32:17 UTC  

Personally, he needs to try to get his sentence down to a manslaughter charge. He's not innocent unfortunately.

2019-01-13 23:32:22 UTC  

not if you have a bunch of left wing radicals there.

2019-01-13 23:32:28 UTC  

There are protections that vary from state to state

2019-01-13 23:32:29 UTC  

This would be why we need better mental health care than our "throw them on the street"? Mentality

2019-01-13 23:32:37 UTC  

We're talking North Carolina, Stefan

2019-01-13 23:32:52 UTC  

Yes, and??

2019-01-13 23:32:59 UTC  

And yes, we need better mental health care in the US

2019-01-13 23:33:07 UTC  

Charlottesville is full of commies, according to the right.

2019-01-13 23:33:18 UTC  

we need to reform the entire medical system, yeah

2019-01-13 23:33:28 UTC  

My point is that you are unlikely to get a jury made up entirely of "left wing radicals"

2019-01-13 23:34:00 UTC  

And the justice system is set up that you need unanimity to find guilty in most capital crime cases

2019-01-13 23:34:22 UTC  

No, but the common person will be against him from how things "look". We need to remember that.

2019-01-13 23:34:23 UTC  

This is English Law, not Napoleonic/Roman

2019-01-13 23:35:06 UTC  

And American Law has the most safeguards of all

2019-01-13 23:35:08 UTC  

You can go to jail for how you look in court, regardless of the evidence presented unfortunately.

2019-01-13 23:35:09 UTC  

On purpose

2019-01-13 23:35:14 UTC  

That is true

2019-01-13 23:35:30 UTC  

Not to say there is much better options, but it is a bit of a pitfall

2019-01-13 23:35:49 UTC  

I will admit, it is probably the best system we've got so far.

2019-01-13 23:35:57 UTC  

In any case it's not like we actually execute people in the US anymore...well, except for TX

2019-01-13 23:36:14 UTC  

It'll be two decades before it happens if that

2019-01-13 23:36:24 UTC  

In the meantime there are appeals

2019-01-13 23:36:48 UTC  

I mean, the chances of you living through a firing line is actually higher than most other death sentences. Remember, if you live through the line firing at you, you get to walk free because you served your sentence.

2019-01-13 23:36:59 UTC  

I'm not sure how many jurors remember and take to heart "innonent until proven guilty" or realize it's up to the state to prove they are guilty, not on the person to prove they are innocent.

2019-01-13 23:37:31 UTC  

The ones I worked with all did

2019-01-13 23:37:36 UTC  

When i was a juror

2019-01-13 23:38:12 UTC  

I have my first jury duty call in February. Well first one I can actually attend since all the previous ones were while in school out of state.

2019-01-13 23:38:41 UTC  

For the common crimes, they probably do remember that. I dont know for how it works when the case is so sensationalized and most people have heard of it though.

2019-01-13 23:39:10 UTC  

There are times it's hard to find an unbiased jury.

2019-01-13 23:40:04 UTC  

Which is why I can somewhat understand the UKs idea of preventing the news from reporting on stuff until after the trial is over. However I think the risk of abuse is too great, but I can understand the idea.