Message from @Little Boots
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In this case they decided it wasnt a crime
That doesn't make it right
But thats how law works
It's unconstitutional no matter the reaction.
So it is legally correct
Just not morally correct to you two
After finding the most backwards deduction reason possible and using an unhealthy amount of mental gymnastics, which only make Lincoln look worse.
Which means fuck all in the long run
You make southerners look worse
Butthirt over 150 year old shit
That was ruled lawful
You seem to be the only one talking morals
Lincoln was a Constitutional Lawyer, he should probably know the Constitution well enough to know where is powers end and where Congress’s powers begin.
Now it is insisted that Congress, and not the Executive, is vested with this power. But the Constitution itself, is silent as to which, or who, is to exercise the power; and as the provision was plainly made for a dangerous emergency, it cannot be believed the framers of the instrument intended, that, in every case, the danger should run its course, until Congress could be called together; the very assembling of which might be prevented ... by the rebellion. No more extended argument is now offered, as an opinion ... will probably be presented by the Attorney General. Whether there shall be any legislation upon the subject, and if any, what, is submitted entirely to the better judgment of Congress.
Lincolns words
He knew
You cite Congress' reaction. We've cited the fucking Constitution.
Ehzek, it’s under Article I.
Article I is Congress’s powers and limitations.
It was a blind spot in the constitution
That congress and abe fixed
The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
No, that’s a lie.
That’s sophistry if I ever saw it.
Where does it say "the President alone can take away my WoHC on a statewide level"
Lincoln made a massive oof.
It doesnt
Case closed.
It was argued by Lincoln that it was for emergencies
That doesn't mean he gets that sudden power
For Congress, yes, not the President.
And since it was an emergency and congress couldn't do it he did it
It’s implied, within the constitution, to be an Legislative Power, not an executive one.
And congress clapped
Congress could do it, that's why his action was unconstitutional in the first place
It was decided that when congress cant president can
Only Congress could do it.
Apparently not
And how does the President magically have this power when it is clearly under the list of Congressional powers?
Otherwise we wouldnt have this conversation