Message from @JadenFrostwolf

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2018-01-10 08:27:27 UTC  

I assumed the US had the same in every state?

2018-01-10 08:27:33 UTC  

abd if you don't pay enough they send you to jail till you pay it off

2018-01-10 08:27:39 UTC  

Like with that new tax plan.

2018-01-10 08:27:53 UTC  

Like, food items altogether are not taxed in California, whereas in Georgia only *fresh* food items are not taxes, if I remember correctly. Even if I am not, it's along those lines.

2018-01-10 08:27:56 UTC  

I assumed it will be implemented in every state

2018-01-10 08:27:57 UTC  

there is a federal tax nation wide then there is a state level then a city level

2018-01-10 08:28:02 UTC  

Ah I see

2018-01-10 08:28:28 UTC  

I'm not too familiar with th enew tax plan, either. lol

2018-01-10 08:28:28 UTC  

How the fuck man. So the average man for example. Of the money he recieves, how much of it goes to the govt?

2018-01-10 08:28:30 UTC  

so why tax our money so much?

2018-01-10 08:28:45 UTC  

Dunno really, I only heard good things of the new plan

2018-01-10 08:28:53 UTC  

about 30-40% by the end of the year

2018-01-10 08:28:56 UTC  

But then I already said I listen to more conservative sources

2018-01-10 08:29:03 UTC  

Well, it doesn't seem like a lot at face value, but if you actually add it all up some people can get taxed as high as about... I think 45%?

2018-01-10 08:29:22 UTC  

Thats almost european level of taxes.

2018-01-10 08:29:35 UTC  

With none of the benefits. lol

2018-01-10 08:29:36 UTC  

if you own property it is worse than renting

2018-01-10 08:29:49 UTC  

I mean, they should probably treat the govt like a buisness, if you want people to willingly give you money, provide a better service.

2018-01-10 08:29:51 UTC  

and a 20t debt

2018-01-10 08:30:08 UTC  

Instead of forcing everyone to pay the higher taxes.

2018-01-10 08:30:24 UTC  

And giving tax reductions to the wealthy.

2018-01-10 08:30:42 UTC  

that is why I say a one sales tax... no income tax no property tax... simple math

2018-01-10 08:30:51 UTC  

Which sounds good on paper, but it requires us to just "trust" that the companies/corporations will use that money to actually provide jobs instead of just pocketing it.

2018-01-10 08:31:12 UTC  

I mean, penalizing companies for going overseas was kinda one step

2018-01-10 08:31:18 UTC  

the tax deductions are about the same accross the board

2018-01-10 08:31:23 UTC  

Or providing incentives to those who stay

2018-01-10 08:31:27 UTC  

And if you trust the wealthy to not just pocket the money, you have far more faith in them than I do lol.

2018-01-10 08:31:43 UTC  

Well... I am from a wealthy family here so I kinda do.

2018-01-10 08:31:48 UTC  

rich don't become rich by hoarding

2018-01-10 08:32:03 UTC  

I know, it's through investing.

2018-01-10 08:32:08 UTC  

they become rich by investing and keeping the money fresh

2018-01-10 08:32:11 UTC  

And i can say, they just happened to work really hard and invested intelligently.

2018-01-10 08:32:23 UTC  

Maybe its the perspective some people have of the rich?

2018-01-10 08:32:30 UTC  

yes

2018-01-10 08:32:34 UTC  

Like of the people in the US, which side hates the rich more?

2018-01-10 08:32:43 UTC  

Do you respect them or do you envy them

2018-01-10 08:32:57 UTC  

the entitled people hate the rich because they want it for themselves

2018-01-10 08:33:00 UTC  

That sort of thing

2018-01-10 08:33:01 UTC  

I didn't mean to come off as "the rich are the sources of all of our problems!" kind of person. I am just saying that I don't trust companies any more than I trust the government.

2018-01-10 08:33:06 UTC  

all profit for no work

2018-01-10 08:33:13 UTC  

you really can't hate the rich, they work hard and then work even harder to understand what to invest in, you have to be smart to gain that kind of money