Message from @xaivei

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2018-08-30 02:55:52 UTC  

we are not eve talking about the same thing

2018-08-30 03:06:14 UTC  

lol

2018-08-30 03:06:26 UTC  

just breathe dude

2018-08-30 03:09:54 UTC  

They are not talking about 2016, they are talking about the incident a few weeks ago.

2018-08-30 03:13:30 UTC  

*heavy breathing*

2018-08-30 03:36:06 UTC  

The funny thing is that Microsoft actually claims Russia tried to hack the RNC but that they prevented it.

2018-08-30 20:10:03 UTC  

They could have

2018-08-30 21:03:11 UTC  

so how is this:

- [FBI contradicts Trump claim that China hacked Clinton’s private email server](http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/404192-fbi-denies-trump-claim-that-china-hacked-clintons-private-email)
- [FBI rebuts Trump tweet about China hacking Hillary Clinton's email](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904811)
- [FBI rejects fringe report, promoted by Trump, that China hacked Hillary Clinton's emails](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/29/fbi-refutes-report-promoted-by-trump-that-china-obtained-hillary-clintons-emails.html)
- [FBI contradicts Trump's claim about Hillary Clinton's emails being hacked by China](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fbi-hillary-clinton-email-server-china-hack-contradict-a8513581.html)

2018-08-30 21:03:21 UTC  

Direct Quote from FBI:

> "The FBI has not found any evidence the (Clinton) servers were compromised," a bureau official told NBC News.

2018-08-30 21:03:29 UTC  

Original Report:

- [SOURCES: CHINA HACKED HILLARY CLINTON’S PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER](https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/27/china-hacked-clinton-server/)

> A Chinese-owned company penetrated former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private server, according to sources briefed on the matter.

2018-08-30 21:03:36 UTC  

Analysis:

In 2016 the FBI released this statement:

[Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System](https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system)

> [...] we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain [...] was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. [...]

> [...] Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account.

So from this, it seems the FBI itself does not think the lack of evidence speaks the the plausabilty of her server being hacked. At the very least - viewed in line with this statement - "The FBI has not found any evidence" does not mean they think it did not happen. It just means they cannot confirm it did.

As the aphorism goes ... Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

2018-08-30 21:07:08 UTC  

Here with more formatting:

Various news outlets claim that FBI not finding evidence of China hacking Clinton servers contradicts the claim that they did.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughFakeNewsSpam/comments/9bnjav/various_news_outlets_claim_that_fbi_not_finding/

2018-08-30 21:09:59 UTC  

To be clear though - I think there is good reason to mistrust the report from the daily caller - but the FBI saying they have no evidence for it is not one of them.

2018-08-30 21:10:12 UTC  

"anonymous sources" is one of them though

2018-08-30 21:11:56 UTC  

Ähm, AFAIK, they didn't have the Servers or even looked at it. So how do they know??

2018-08-30 21:24:44 UTC  

@Stefan Payne well they don't - but that is their point

2018-08-30 21:24:56 UTC  

I mean they say they don't expect to find evidence - but go on to say it is possible it happened

2018-08-30 21:25:09 UTC  

so the lack of evidence - by their own word - does not really mean anything

2018-08-30 21:25:46 UTC  

which is why I'm saying that claiming FBI's lack of evidence is a refuation of the Daily Caller's report is not true

2018-08-30 21:26:18 UTC  

Yeah, I totally agree....

2018-08-30 21:30:01 UTC  

is basically what the MSM is doing here

2018-08-30 22:50:17 UTC  

@xaivei I believe the Daily Caller on this one. The MSM is just running damage control.

2018-08-30 22:50:36 UTC  

Atknis, well I dunno what to believe - but it does look like damage control

2018-08-30 22:50:46 UTC  

more from FBI than MSMS

2018-08-30 22:51:06 UTC  

MSM just shilling for FBI

2018-08-30 22:52:12 UTC  

Given the level of detail and specific sources named in the Daily Caller article, as well as the FBI's horrific mishandling of the investigation (and Strzok's involvement) it seems to me like they have the facts on their side. Eventually we'll learn which Chinese firm it was.

2018-08-30 22:52:59 UTC  

Might be after Kavanaugh's confirmation.

2018-08-30 22:54:16 UTC  

It's going to be a wild couple of months. No reason to hold anything back.

2018-08-30 23:01:35 UTC  

So The left thinks you should hate the Flordia governor GOP nomoniee because he was an admin for a Facebook group they have deemed anti-Muslim and thus raceist. But then they want to boycott In and Out burger because they are Chgristian.
https://thinkprogress.org/florida-gop-gubernatorial-nominee-ron-desantis-admin-racist-anti-muslim-facebook-group-6e6d527c6fc2/
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-in-and-out-donations-20180830-story.html

2018-08-30 23:03:17 UTC  

@woodchuck00 AFAIK you can make people admin of group without consent

2018-08-30 23:03:32 UTC  

so he may not have even been affiliated with it

2018-08-30 23:06:55 UTC  

True , thinkprogress and the other hit pieces never have any screenshots or proof, they only have screen shots off twitter posts were people claim he was an admin.

2018-08-30 23:08:23 UTC  

It is also hilarious that the left is mad at In and Out, they finally figured out that all the packaging has bible verses on it. Following the lefts own logic, they are raceist.

2018-08-30 23:09:01 UTC  

wow that is pretty sketchy

2018-08-30 23:09:11 UTC  

and thinkprogress ... fucking trash journalism - of the highest caliber

2018-08-30 23:29:26 UTC  

I wouldn't even consider them journalism or news, they are an advocacy group.

2018-08-30 23:36:42 UTC  

yeah

2018-08-31 15:15:17 UTC  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nknYtlOvaQ0 we've got a new textbook definition of irony from Vox

2018-08-31 15:33:19 UTC  

“ Former Vatican ambassador says Popes Francis,Benedict knew of sexual misconduct allegations against McCarrick for years “ by Chico Harlan, Stefano Pitrelli and Michael Boorstein on Washington Post

^Benedict did know about McCarrick, HOWEVER, Benedict actually took strong actions against it. Francis revoked literally all of the sanctions that Benedict had put on McCarrick. That's a big important detail to just leave out. They're lumping them together to make it seem like they both did nothing. Benedict did his job, Francis didn't. And they try to sugarcoat that.

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