Message from @oprahsminge

Discord ID: 496760839643070465


2018-10-02 19:05:06 UTC  

"One of your products"
way to take responsibility out of the hands of the attacker

2018-10-02 19:05:44 UTC  

or a company producing bump-stocks? I mean literally like the day after

2018-10-02 19:05:49 UTC  

Considering that sales increased immediately after the shooting?

2018-10-02 19:05:53 UTC  

i don't think they needed to

2018-10-02 19:05:56 UTC  

Lockheed Martin lobbies the government to use their products to kill people more often and perpetuate wars

2018-10-02 19:06:03 UTC  

arguable

2018-10-02 19:06:05 UTC  

They share responsibility with the users

2018-10-02 19:06:36 UTC  

What is a dump stock?

2018-10-02 19:07:00 UTC  

the law avoiding and better named bump-stock

2018-10-02 19:07:27 UTC  

bump stock

2018-10-02 19:07:33 UTC  

not dump stock

2018-10-02 19:07:39 UTC  

Its not a great argument
its like saying that a truck company couldn't run an ad after the berlin market attack

2018-10-02 19:07:46 UTC  

its a way to ease the recoil of a rifle

2018-10-02 19:07:59 UTC  

couldn't is different than shouldn't.

2018-10-02 19:08:06 UTC  

i get their point here, I just don't really care I guess

2018-10-02 19:08:11 UTC  

and its more a question of "what did you think would get posted"

2018-10-02 19:08:22 UTC  

the word couldnt is not the point of contention

2018-10-02 19:08:40 UTC  

this isn't some ad on tv scheduled weeks ago

2018-10-02 19:08:55 UTC  

or in some ad network getting played at random

2018-10-02 19:09:55 UTC  

Lockheed Martin deleted the tweet in question, it's funny to see the incident covered even if you disagree with the spinning of it as LM being "fucking idiots"

2018-10-02 19:10:13 UTC  

it would have been funny if they retweeted the article about their product being used to kill kids and said "Got any exciting photos?"

2018-10-02 19:10:51 UTC  

i mean, thats basically what they did in the end.

2018-10-02 19:10:58 UTC  

Trump should have never touched the orb, he's tainted now

2018-10-02 19:12:00 UTC  

>contractor for US Military
>do your job
>US sells weapon you made for them to another country
>you are responsible for what happens
???

2018-10-02 19:12:42 UTC  

@Beemann isn't the US just allowing lockheed to sell it?

2018-10-02 19:12:54 UTC  

so the US govt doesn't sell directly unless its in stock

2018-10-02 19:13:00 UTC  

but I get the point

2018-10-02 19:13:00 UTC  

Are they?

2018-10-02 19:13:10 UTC  

That was always my impression

2018-10-02 19:13:16 UTC  

like the tanks I signed over to the Iraqi Army

2018-10-02 19:13:19 UTC  

those were in stock

2018-10-02 19:13:19 UTC  

My question ultimately is "how many steps removed do they have to be for it to not be their fault"

2018-10-02 19:13:31 UTC  

i signed... i think 10 over to them

2018-10-02 19:13:32 UTC  

I mean, if you sell to a person who is known for doing horrible things, are you not at part responsible?

2018-10-02 19:14:01 UTC  

did you know the person was going to do something horrible before they did it?

2018-10-02 19:14:15 UTC  

its fucking Saudi Arabia

2018-10-02 19:14:19 UTC  

did they say "hey bruh. I'm gonna go blow up some kids"

2018-10-02 19:14:25 UTC  

I suppose if the government decided to cut ties with Saudi Arabia and end foreign interventionism in general that LM lobbyists would just sit by and let it happen, then?

2018-10-02 19:14:30 UTC  

Or do we live in reality

2018-10-02 19:14:32 UTC  

A trusted US Ally (tm)

2018-10-02 19:14:37 UTC  

@Risotto why not