Man is fallible

But again the fact remains that the US committed war crimes by indiscriminate killing of civilians

Yes, they did

And both nuclear attacks killed unarmed civilians with no justification

It was either that, or a dragged out war and with the possibility of USSR annexing Japan or forcing US to another war

War crime? Yes

Neither would have happened

And would be preferable

How do you know that?

History

USSR was ready to assault them

By their unconditional defeat Japan was a vassal of US something USSR couldn't invade anymore and it reduced the risk of Communist infection

Without an unconditional defeat anything was on the table until the war would end

It doesn't change the fact that Nukes were bad but it also doesn't change the fact that they had to use them for a quick end of the war

Didn't have to use them

The USSR would not have invaded a US-occupied mainland

How many more Americans would die to occupy the japanese

How many more japanese would die to fend of the invaders

How many more would die because of the soviets un-deniable attack on japanese

to "pay" them back

You bombed them to the point of many of them starved

Bombed day and night

how many more bombardments would do before a land invasion?

@Deleted User none

They still used kamikaze attacks disregarding their lifes

They were going to surrender

@Deleted User That's bullshit and you know it

The idea that every Jap was going to fight to the death is retarded propaganda

Is it wrong to send big anime tiddies to political pollsters

If it were true...they would have done it

And they did it, until NUKES came

No, they did not

And the civilians did not fight the occupation

If anything the indiscriminate illegal slaughter would have made them more likely to fight

You speak for civilians when you carpet bombed them for day and night non stop

All infrastructure of Japanese along with their military complexes were demolished

their navy was lying in the depths of the sea

their "modern" type of airplanes were models used for kamikaze attacks

And it was wrong

And they still haden't surrendered

what makes you believe a land assault would not result in a bloody fight?