When I am ready I'll allow you to join a voice channel and prep you

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I've been to China, with religious items, been to church, my wife is a Christian Catholic, and we never faced any persecution whatsoever @Deleted User

I wear a Saint Michael medal on my neck all the time and of course you show it to the airport police and they didn't have an issue with it

So the presecution they do to the Churches and what they enforce what is it?

90% of this religious persecution is western media propaganda

@Deleted User is he your patron saint?

@Deleted User do Orthodox have patron saints?

The largest church to get shut down in recent memory was in Chengdu or Chongqing I forget which

@Iakovos there was kinda three aspects of the Soviet Army--the actual communists who deserved to die, the non-communists forced into it or going along with it just to survive, and then the ones that were holdovers from Imperial Russia (aka the best ones, the true patriots)
the first ones deserved to die, the rest deserved far better than the Soviet Union

I've read their statement of faith and it was basically like Jehovah Witness trash

@Iakovos Yes https://orthodoxwiki.org/Patron_saint here is the list

They said things like, you can't have a government job if you are a Christian, no true Christians can be cops or soldiers etc

It was very similar to JW trash and they were shut down for it

There's a Catholic Church in Shanghai that has had 3000 people in one mass

There's Orthodox churches up north, where ethnic Russians with PRC citizenship go

So the enforcing of states doctrine is a lie?

Protestant churches too

It depends

While the CCP is officially atheist, Protestantism and Catholicism are two of five faiths sanctioned by the government and religious freedom has been enshrined in the constitution since the 1980s. For decades, authorities tolerated the house churches, which refused to register with government bodies that required church leaders to adapt teachings to follow party doctrine.

From the article

Can a priest say China is evil and all that stuff ? No

Most American Protestant sermons would probably not be allowed, but you probably have never heard these kind of doom and gloom things

@Deleted User who is your patron saint?

@Iakovos yes Saint Michael is mine

I want a patron saint that is a good worker and father

Sorry for the delay

@Iakovos Saint Joseph?

Christopher

Joseph seems too esteemed

Like

I am beneath him

@Deleted User a defector from the Ministry of State Security (the secret police) said there are even Christians in MSS

@Bigby who is Christopher?

But yeah Saint Joseph seems good. The Carpenter yes?

patron of travelers

i drive for a living

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Christopher

His story is actually pretty neat

If you check the list I send you, it has the saints over lists for what they protect in Orthodox

@blondishasp, let me know what I need to do for the call in like joining a voice channel or something.