Message from @kontroll

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2018-10-27 09:50:00 UTC  

I know next to nothing about the story. Were the bombs even real?

2018-10-27 09:50:54 UTC  

In any case, cutting PVC is... ridiculously easy. Soldering isn't rocket science; even an idiot can do a job that will at least work. Not sure what else there is to it.

2018-10-27 09:50:58 UTC  

Real in the sense they had fireworks powder in them, but they could not have detonated ... so just meant to scare.

2018-10-27 09:51:24 UTC  

Could you do this while living in a van?

2018-10-27 09:52:42 UTC  

Absolutely.

2018-10-27 09:53:00 UTC  

Where did he plug in the soldering gun? The van has tools to cut and seal the ends?

2018-10-27 09:53:13 UTC  

Hell, as far as the pipes go, you can get them cut to length at whatever hardware store.

2018-10-27 09:53:37 UTC  

The van doesn't need to be equipped with tools. You can buy them separately, I'm sure. 😉

2018-10-27 09:53:56 UTC  

LOL, hey Mr. Hardware man, can you cut me 13 pip bomb sized tubes?

2018-10-27 09:54:00 UTC  
2018-10-27 09:54:23 UTC  

Totally real btw; I have one in a drawer somewhere. Works well too.

2018-10-27 09:54:54 UTC  

Yes possible, but the scenario I lay also could have happened ...

2018-10-27 09:55:23 UTC  

Sure, but why complicate things with a big conspiracy theory?

2018-10-27 09:55:35 UTC  

What you mean?

2018-10-27 09:57:15 UTC  

Look, just because something *could* have happened and it would make for a more interesting story doesn't mean it's the more plausible option.

2018-10-27 09:57:25 UTC  

The world isn't always interesting.

2018-10-27 09:58:22 UTC  

So why make up crazy theories when in all likelihood the reality is that it's just far more simple and boring?

2018-10-27 09:59:05 UTC  

Just saying. Not ruling anything out, but it's not a grand project that requires any external actors to happen.

2018-10-27 10:00:19 UTC  

Because there is a lot of power/money at stake ... one can not be naive. It only takes one handler, not so expensive, but well paid maybe $100K for the job. With millions in donor money floating around ...

2018-10-27 10:01:16 UTC  

In that case, why not just use those resources to make the bombs, wipe them clean, and deliver them without leaving any loose ends?

2018-10-27 10:01:32 UTC  

Van guy would be a huge liability.

2018-10-27 10:01:49 UTC  

No, because you need a known Rep crazy to pin it on.

2018-10-27 10:02:34 UTC  

The guy fits all the stereotypes ... perfect pawn...

2018-10-27 10:02:41 UTC  

What if he rats them out though? There's no way of ruling out that possibility.

2018-10-27 10:03:17 UTC  

Sure, but it will just be viewed as a stunt to get out of the charges ... he cops a plea deal and take a less sentence.

2018-10-27 10:03:53 UTC  

Seems like an extremely unnecessary risk. I wouldn't take it if I had the resources and motivation to do this sort of thing.

2018-10-27 10:04:47 UTC  

No real risk, the only risk is if the handler back stabs you. That's why it is an expensive job, but some "Political Consulting" group.

2018-10-27 10:05:14 UTC  

Eh, it's possible. I just don't see it being reasonable personally.

2018-10-27 10:05:35 UTC  

And this group is probable 3rd hand, so if caught plausible deniability ...

2018-10-27 10:07:09 UTC  

If you search the internet, there are far more complicated schemes financed. This one is not that difficult actually.

2018-10-27 10:09:25 UTC  

Lone guy living in a van, befriend him, alcohol, money, women at the strip bar ... invite him back to your man cave for beers and joke about the evil Dems and making bombs .... have the material laid out etc ... he is drunk, his hands are all over it .... then send it out.

2018-10-27 10:09:33 UTC  

Of course it's not difficult, that's not my issue. I'm just saying there's no special skills required for any of this, and a reasonably unhinged person could easily pull it off, without any need for other actors to be involved at any point.

2018-10-27 10:09:43 UTC  

Except maybe some guy cutting PVC pipes up for him at the hardware store.

2018-10-27 10:10:28 UTC  

Oh sure, doing it that way would actually be much more reasonable.

2018-10-27 10:11:00 UTC  

"I didn't do it, I swear, and I have nobody else to point to" would be much better.

2018-10-27 10:11:06 UTC  

Probably cheaper too.

2018-10-27 10:11:36 UTC  

The handler blackmails, so he is implicated ...

2018-10-27 10:12:19 UTC  

Says, just kidding .... but this is part of the trap ... he double crosses and sends it out.

2018-10-27 10:12:39 UTC  

I meant what you said about getting the guy drunk enough to pass out and just get whatever prints / DNA stuff you need.

2018-10-27 10:12:56 UTC  

Yes another possibility ...

2018-10-27 10:13:47 UTC  

So we shall see when the question him to see how and where the bombs were made ...