Message from @Rickard

Discord ID: 510234456548835338


2018-11-08 23:22:15 UTC  

Peoples' politics are genetic and can't change

2018-11-08 23:22:30 UTC  

Nobody said that.

2018-11-08 23:22:46 UTC  

@devpav it’s essentially how you think about race.

2018-11-08 23:23:00 UTC  

at the very least how it came out

2018-11-08 23:23:19 UTC  

What I think is that behavior is influenced by genetics because humans are biological organisms.

2018-11-08 23:24:05 UTC  

Oh, so you're copping out. Genes can SLIGHTLY affect political persuasion A LITTLE BIT, but enough for me to blame the darkies for communism

2018-11-08 23:24:15 UTC  

so what then, is your response to the scandinavian socialist policies!?

2018-11-08 23:24:18 UTC  

It's more than slightly.

2018-11-08 23:25:03 UTC  

Lol. They’ve been mocking that exact concept.

2018-11-08 23:25:11 UTC  

See this is what I'm talking about. You're giving a nebulous amount of influence to genes on politics. Just enough to blame darkies, and never coming down on a hard line so you can run away from scrutiny of your ideas

2018-11-08 23:26:06 UTC  

The genetic component of differences between Swedes and Nigerians is larger than the genetic component of differences between Swedes and Brits. That's just a matter of statistical variance.

2018-11-08 23:26:29 UTC  

So what? That doesn’t prove anything

2018-11-08 23:26:37 UTC  

So why then are the swedes so hardcore socialist and the US whites not?

2018-11-08 23:27:15 UTC  

It's a mix of genetics and environment.

2018-11-08 23:27:41 UTC  

You vastly overestimate the genetics part.

2018-11-08 23:27:46 UTC  

But a different mix than between Swedes and Nigerians.

2018-11-08 23:28:19 UTC  

That certainly does not explain the enourmous difference in political development

2018-11-08 23:28:21 UTC  

Okay how can you determine who is genetically a communist and who is environmentally a communist? We see a massive cultural difference in libertarian blacks and communist blacks that we can directly trace to how they grew up

2018-11-08 23:28:51 UTC  

Something as cognitively complicated as political persuasion being dictated by genes is laughable

2018-11-08 23:29:03 UTC  

Cat, I doubt you even know how to estimate the genetic part of the difference.

2018-11-08 23:29:34 UTC  

Do you, @devpav ?

2018-11-08 23:29:48 UTC  

The idea that political values are directly coded into the genes is laughable. But I'm not the one saying it.

2018-11-08 23:30:03 UTC  

You're implying that

2018-11-08 23:30:11 UTC  

No, you are.

2018-11-08 23:30:23 UTC  

Where am I saying that genes can affect political thought

2018-11-08 23:30:44 UTC  

You're projecting that onto me when I never said anything of the sort.

2018-11-08 23:30:46 UTC  

There are way too many variables involved in political thought to pin it down to any genetic influence

2018-11-08 23:30:59 UTC  

We can see cultural trends like night and day

2018-11-08 23:31:20 UTC  

Environment is a much better predictor of political persuasion

2018-11-08 23:31:57 UTC  

Now Environment would explain the Swedish situation

2018-11-08 23:32:06 UTC  

@devpav I’m beginning to think that you don’t understand how culture works in addition to how genetics work.

2018-11-08 23:32:29 UTC  

@Rickard The statistical estimate involves measuring the amount of variance due to genetic and environmental factors.

2018-11-08 23:33:19 UTC  

Cat, I'm beginning to think you never have anything real to offer to any conversation.

2018-11-08 23:34:42 UTC  

Well sweden is historicly very homogenous when it comes to genetics.
However a very strong "workers movement" has caused extreme social policies to have developed.

2018-11-08 23:35:11 UTC  

@devpav I guess I’m having difficulty integrating with your low IQ. Lol

2018-11-08 23:36:15 UTC  

Poor circumstances for the average people during and just before the industrialization paired with creation of workers groups formed a united political front of people who wished to steal from the rich. Both workers and the rich were all swedish whites.

2018-11-08 23:36:45 UTC  

I've already said multiple times that I'm not saying that every minute historical turn is due entirely to genetics.

2018-11-08 23:38:27 UTC  

But would'nt that practicly defeat genetics as a primary determining factor?

2018-11-08 23:39:34 UTC  

It is the primary determining factor whenever it is measurably the primary determining factor.

2018-11-08 23:40:10 UTC  

Okay that's literally nonsense

2018-11-08 23:40:32 UTC  

It's literally conditional.