Message from @Rickard
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Peoples' politics are genetic and can't change
Nobody said that.
@devpav it’s essentially how you think about race.
at the very least how it came out
What I think is that behavior is influenced by genetics because humans are biological organisms.
Oh, so you're copping out. Genes can SLIGHTLY affect political persuasion A LITTLE BIT, but enough for me to blame the darkies for communism
so what then, is your response to the scandinavian socialist policies!?
It's more than slightly.
Lol. They’ve been mocking that exact concept.
See this is what I'm talking about. You're giving a nebulous amount of influence to genes on politics. Just enough to blame darkies, and never coming down on a hard line so you can run away from scrutiny of your ideas
The genetic component of differences between Swedes and Nigerians is larger than the genetic component of differences between Swedes and Brits. That's just a matter of statistical variance.
So what? That doesn’t prove anything
So why then are the swedes so hardcore socialist and the US whites not?
It's a mix of genetics and environment.
You vastly overestimate the genetics part.
But a different mix than between Swedes and Nigerians.
That certainly does not explain the enourmous difference in political development
Okay how can you determine who is genetically a communist and who is environmentally a communist? We see a massive cultural difference in libertarian blacks and communist blacks that we can directly trace to how they grew up
Something as cognitively complicated as political persuasion being dictated by genes is laughable
Cat, I doubt you even know how to estimate the genetic part of the difference.
The idea that political values are directly coded into the genes is laughable. But I'm not the one saying it.
You're implying that
No, you are.
Where am I saying that genes can affect political thought
You're projecting that onto me when I never said anything of the sort.
There are way too many variables involved in political thought to pin it down to any genetic influence
We can see cultural trends like night and day
Environment is a much better predictor of political persuasion
Now Environment would explain the Swedish situation
@devpav I’m beginning to think that you don’t understand how culture works in addition to how genetics work.
@Rickard The statistical estimate involves measuring the amount of variance due to genetic and environmental factors.
Cat, I'm beginning to think you never have anything real to offer to any conversation.
Well sweden is historicly very homogenous when it comes to genetics.
However a very strong "workers movement" has caused extreme social policies to have developed.
@devpav I guess I’m having difficulty integrating with your low IQ. Lol
Poor circumstances for the average people during and just before the industrialization paired with creation of workers groups formed a united political front of people who wished to steal from the rich. Both workers and the rich were all swedish whites.
I've already said multiple times that I'm not saying that every minute historical turn is due entirely to genetics.
But would'nt that practicly defeat genetics as a primary determining factor?
It is the primary determining factor whenever it is measurably the primary determining factor.
Okay that's literally nonsense
It's literally conditional.