Message from @Rickard
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See this is what I'm talking about. You're giving a nebulous amount of influence to genes on politics. Just enough to blame darkies, and never coming down on a hard line so you can run away from scrutiny of your ideas
The genetic component of differences between Swedes and Nigerians is larger than the genetic component of differences between Swedes and Brits. That's just a matter of statistical variance.
So what? That doesn’t prove anything
So why then are the swedes so hardcore socialist and the US whites not?
It's a mix of genetics and environment.
You vastly overestimate the genetics part.
But a different mix than between Swedes and Nigerians.
That certainly does not explain the enourmous difference in political development
Okay how can you determine who is genetically a communist and who is environmentally a communist? We see a massive cultural difference in libertarian blacks and communist blacks that we can directly trace to how they grew up
Something as cognitively complicated as political persuasion being dictated by genes is laughable
Cat, I doubt you even know how to estimate the genetic part of the difference.
The idea that political values are directly coded into the genes is laughable. But I'm not the one saying it.
You're implying that
No, you are.
Where am I saying that genes can affect political thought
You're projecting that onto me when I never said anything of the sort.
There are way too many variables involved in political thought to pin it down to any genetic influence
We can see cultural trends like night and day
Environment is a much better predictor of political persuasion
@devpav I’m beginning to think that you don’t understand how culture works in addition to how genetics work.
@Rickard The statistical estimate involves measuring the amount of variance due to genetic and environmental factors.
Cat, I'm beginning to think you never have anything real to offer to any conversation.
Well sweden is historicly very homogenous when it comes to genetics.
However a very strong "workers movement" has caused extreme social policies to have developed.
@devpav I guess I’m having difficulty integrating with your low IQ. Lol
Poor circumstances for the average people during and just before the industrialization paired with creation of workers groups formed a united political front of people who wished to steal from the rich. Both workers and the rich were all swedish whites.
I've already said multiple times that I'm not saying that every minute historical turn is due entirely to genetics.
But would'nt that practicly defeat genetics as a primary determining factor?
It is the primary determining factor whenever it is measurably the primary determining factor.
Okay that's literally nonsense
It's literally conditional.
I see, so when and how is it the "measurably primary factor"?
But that statement is useless. It doesn't tell anyone about what you believe the frequency of genetics being the primary determining factor
It does nothing to add to the conversation
It's impossible to disagree with that statement too
That's like saying "The Jews are behind all the conspiracies that the Jews are behind". Yeah I guess by definition they are, but what's your point
@DrWittMDPhD his point is that racial genetic differences make racial integration impossible/undesirable. He does not understand both genetics and culture.
Because it depends on the circumstances. Differences between identical twins are purely environmental whereas differences between a pair from two genetically distant human populations are not so much.
You're hand waving. If you're going to be so vague about when genes do and don't affect political persuasion, you can't just attribute 95% of blacks voting for Beta Beto in Texas to their genes.
You speak with a definitive tone when you blame peoples genes for being communists, but you confuse the issue when we try to pin you down on how much you think genes play a role