Migration to the New World was in fact a genetic bottleneck. Migrations generally are because they represent a small sample from a parent population.

Oh goodness I’ve been wrong the whole time. Something in the ocean must of had some epigenetic effect. Geez how could I miss that.

If you don't want me to take you seriously, I won't.

Oh yeah you got me. Also don't think about how people with shit communist ideas can change their minds through argumentation and life experience develop libertarian ideas

Peoples' politics are genetic and can't change

Nobody said that.

@devpav it’s essentially how you think about race.

at the very least how it came out

What I think is that behavior is influenced by genetics because humans are biological organisms.

Oh, so you're copping out. Genes can SLIGHTLY affect political persuasion A LITTLE BIT, but enough for me to blame the darkies for communism

so what then, is your response to the scandinavian socialist policies!?

It's more than slightly.

Lol. They’ve been mocking that exact concept.

See this is what I'm talking about. You're giving a nebulous amount of influence to genes on politics. Just enough to blame darkies, and never coming down on a hard line so you can run away from scrutiny of your ideas

The genetic component of differences between Swedes and Nigerians is larger than the genetic component of differences between Swedes and Brits. That's just a matter of statistical variance.

So what? That doesn’t prove anything

So why then are the swedes so hardcore socialist and the US whites not?

It's a mix of genetics and environment.

You vastly overestimate the genetics part.

But a different mix than between Swedes and Nigerians.

That certainly does not explain the enourmous difference in political development

Okay how can you determine who is genetically a communist and who is environmentally a communist? We see a massive cultural difference in libertarian blacks and communist blacks that we can directly trace to how they grew up

Something as cognitively complicated as political persuasion being dictated by genes is laughable

Cat, I doubt you even know how to estimate the genetic part of the difference.

Do you, @devpav ?

The idea that political values are directly coded into the genes is laughable. But I'm not the one saying it.

You're implying that

No, you are.

Where am I saying that genes can affect political thought

You're projecting that onto me when I never said anything of the sort.

There are way too many variables involved in political thought to pin it down to any genetic influence

We can see cultural trends like night and day

Environment is a much better predictor of political persuasion

Now Environment would explain the Swedish situation

@devpav I’m beginning to think that you don’t understand how culture works in addition to how genetics work.

@Rickard The statistical estimate involves measuring the amount of variance due to genetic and environmental factors.

Cat, I'm beginning to think you never have anything real to offer to any conversation.

Well sweden is historicly very homogenous when it comes to genetics.
However a very strong "workers movement" has caused extreme social policies to have developed.

@devpav I guess I’m having difficulty integrating with your low IQ. Lol

Poor circumstances for the average people during and just before the industrialization paired with creation of workers groups formed a united political front of people who wished to steal from the rich. Both workers and the rich were all swedish whites.

I've already said multiple times that I'm not saying that every minute historical turn is due entirely to genetics.