Message from @Rickard
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Yes, in America. In Europe there are a fuck ton of commies. So if whites in the US are more libertarian, but whites in Europe are more communist, then it seems like culture is affecting their beliefs, huh?
Their cultures are affected by both genetics and environment.
Yes, cause the genetic shift between whites in Europe and whites in America changed in 400 years
@devpav If you want some serious hardcore race realist socialism check out the swedish policies and political ideas/discourse during the 1930-1950s.
And note the complete absence of "foreign blood" amongst the leaders and the people....
Your idea of whites being some kind of freedom-loving right wingers is.. simply false.
Also ignore the other whites that came after 1600s
We only got one group of whites in the US in the 1600s, and then we rapidly developed libertarianism genetically
damnit then my argument is not as solid!
Don't think about how ideas of freedom and individuality came out of brit thinkers
It's uniquely American genetics that makes us not communists
Must be!
Migration to the New World was in fact a genetic bottleneck. Migrations generally are because they represent a small sample from a parent population.
Oh goodness I’ve been wrong the whole time. Something in the ocean must of had some epigenetic effect. Geez how could I miss that.
If you don't want me to take you seriously, I won't.
Oh yeah you got me. Also don't think about how people with shit communist ideas can change their minds through argumentation and life experience develop libertarian ideas
Peoples' politics are genetic and can't change
Nobody said that.
@devpav it’s essentially how you think about race.
at the very least how it came out
What I think is that behavior is influenced by genetics because humans are biological organisms.
Oh, so you're copping out. Genes can SLIGHTLY affect political persuasion A LITTLE BIT, but enough for me to blame the darkies for communism
It's more than slightly.
Lol. They’ve been mocking that exact concept.
See this is what I'm talking about. You're giving a nebulous amount of influence to genes on politics. Just enough to blame darkies, and never coming down on a hard line so you can run away from scrutiny of your ideas
The genetic component of differences between Swedes and Nigerians is larger than the genetic component of differences between Swedes and Brits. That's just a matter of statistical variance.
So what? That doesn’t prove anything
So why then are the swedes so hardcore socialist and the US whites not?
It's a mix of genetics and environment.
You vastly overestimate the genetics part.
But a different mix than between Swedes and Nigerians.
That certainly does not explain the enourmous difference in political development
Okay how can you determine who is genetically a communist and who is environmentally a communist? We see a massive cultural difference in libertarian blacks and communist blacks that we can directly trace to how they grew up
Something as cognitively complicated as political persuasion being dictated by genes is laughable
Cat, I doubt you even know how to estimate the genetic part of the difference.
The idea that political values are directly coded into the genes is laughable. But I'm not the one saying it.
You're implying that
No, you are.
Where am I saying that genes can affect political thought
You're projecting that onto me when I never said anything of the sort.
There are way too many variables involved in political thought to pin it down to any genetic influence