Message from @Rickard

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2018-11-08 23:17:12 UTC  

Yes, in America. In Europe there are a fuck ton of commies. So if whites in the US are more libertarian, but whites in Europe are more communist, then it seems like culture is affecting their beliefs, huh?

2018-11-08 23:17:58 UTC  

Their cultures are affected by both genetics and environment.

2018-11-08 23:18:21 UTC  

Yes, cause the genetic shift between whites in Europe and whites in America changed in 400 years

2018-11-08 23:18:29 UTC  

@devpav If you want some serious hardcore race realist socialism check out the swedish policies and political ideas/discourse during the 1930-1950s.
And note the complete absence of "foreign blood" amongst the leaders and the people....

Your idea of whites being some kind of freedom-loving right wingers is.. simply false.

2018-11-08 23:18:33 UTC  

Also ignore the other whites that came after 1600s

2018-11-08 23:18:56 UTC  

We only got one group of whites in the US in the 1600s, and then we rapidly developed libertarianism genetically

2018-11-08 23:18:56 UTC  

damnit then my argument is not as solid!

2018-11-08 23:19:23 UTC  

Don't think about how ideas of freedom and individuality came out of brit thinkers

2018-11-08 23:19:40 UTC  

It's uniquely American genetics that makes us not communists

2018-11-08 23:19:47 UTC  

Must be!

2018-11-08 23:20:36 UTC  

Migration to the New World was in fact a genetic bottleneck. Migrations generally are because they represent a small sample from a parent population.

2018-11-08 23:21:05 UTC  

Oh goodness I’ve been wrong the whole time. Something in the ocean must of had some epigenetic effect. Geez how could I miss that.

2018-11-08 23:21:43 UTC  

If you don't want me to take you seriously, I won't.

2018-11-08 23:22:01 UTC  

Oh yeah you got me. Also don't think about how people with shit communist ideas can change their minds through argumentation and life experience develop libertarian ideas

2018-11-08 23:22:15 UTC  

Peoples' politics are genetic and can't change

2018-11-08 23:22:30 UTC  

Nobody said that.

2018-11-08 23:22:46 UTC  

@devpav it’s essentially how you think about race.

2018-11-08 23:23:00 UTC  

at the very least how it came out

2018-11-08 23:23:19 UTC  

What I think is that behavior is influenced by genetics because humans are biological organisms.

2018-11-08 23:24:05 UTC  

Oh, so you're copping out. Genes can SLIGHTLY affect political persuasion A LITTLE BIT, but enough for me to blame the darkies for communism

2018-11-08 23:24:15 UTC  

so what then, is your response to the scandinavian socialist policies!?

2018-11-08 23:24:18 UTC  

It's more than slightly.

2018-11-08 23:25:03 UTC  

Lol. They’ve been mocking that exact concept.

2018-11-08 23:25:11 UTC  

See this is what I'm talking about. You're giving a nebulous amount of influence to genes on politics. Just enough to blame darkies, and never coming down on a hard line so you can run away from scrutiny of your ideas

2018-11-08 23:26:06 UTC  

The genetic component of differences between Swedes and Nigerians is larger than the genetic component of differences between Swedes and Brits. That's just a matter of statistical variance.

2018-11-08 23:26:29 UTC  

So what? That doesn’t prove anything

2018-11-08 23:26:37 UTC  

So why then are the swedes so hardcore socialist and the US whites not?

2018-11-08 23:27:15 UTC  

It's a mix of genetics and environment.

2018-11-08 23:27:41 UTC  

You vastly overestimate the genetics part.

2018-11-08 23:27:46 UTC  

But a different mix than between Swedes and Nigerians.

2018-11-08 23:28:19 UTC  

That certainly does not explain the enourmous difference in political development

2018-11-08 23:28:21 UTC  

Okay how can you determine who is genetically a communist and who is environmentally a communist? We see a massive cultural difference in libertarian blacks and communist blacks that we can directly trace to how they grew up

2018-11-08 23:28:51 UTC  

Something as cognitively complicated as political persuasion being dictated by genes is laughable

2018-11-08 23:29:03 UTC  

Cat, I doubt you even know how to estimate the genetic part of the difference.

2018-11-08 23:29:34 UTC  

Do you, @devpav ?

2018-11-08 23:29:48 UTC  

The idea that political values are directly coded into the genes is laughable. But I'm not the one saying it.

2018-11-08 23:30:03 UTC  

You're implying that

2018-11-08 23:30:11 UTC  

No, you are.

2018-11-08 23:30:23 UTC  

Where am I saying that genes can affect political thought

2018-11-08 23:30:44 UTC  

You're projecting that onto me when I never said anything of the sort.

2018-11-08 23:30:46 UTC  

There are way too many variables involved in political thought to pin it down to any genetic influence