Message from @NoOneAtAll
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If you want to pay me as a security contractor, I'm sure I could figure out a way.
Serious.
How do you do that match though? You would then be able to tie a vote to an address, violating secret ballot procedures.
if you have chain of custody issues with the storage boxes for ballots, they can just vanish the box and replace it with a new one full of completely different ballots. if they don't allow observers, you can just look at ballots (legit or fake) and tally whatever result you want. see an R box checked, but mark the vote for D.
You cannot connect a vote, just the envelope containing the ballot.
changing the number of ballots cast is difficult (though possible in small amounts), but changing the candidate voted for is trivial.
@Atkins indeed, frankly, most union elections have better security than national elections. And it gets worse in bluer states.
With the signature thing, I've seen a lot of signatures because when I was in the navy I worked with reactors. Every piece of paperwork had a minimum of 4 signatures on it. I can tell whose signature it is even if it isn't legible. So comparing a signature with a sample shouldn't be hard.
Yeah, if there's secret ballot procedures, then the act of calling someone up to confirm their vote would be a breach of that.
It's a combination of what the letters might be and how it flows. It's unlikely that your handwriting changed that much.
yeah, the whole point of a secret ballot is that it's impossible to tie the person to the ballot, hence making it impossible to verify that the vote cast matches the vote counted.
They don't confirm a vote, they confirm the submission of a ballot
@NoOneAtAll yeah, but you've seen these people's signatures many, many times and it's small enough sample to know them all. We're talking hundreds of thousands or millions of signatures here.
I actually changed my signature in the navy I signed so many damn pieces of paper.
Are ballots double wrapped? An envelope in an envelope
Yes.
Yes
A secrecy envelope
The overwrap envelope is opened by a committee
If you have a sample signature you can say with reasonable certainty whether or not the person who it belonged to made it.
Then technically you cannot match a vote to a ballot. And that is still a weak point.
Only once signatures are validated
Where someone can switch out ballots
The concern though, is that you can slip in all sorts of things at receiving or swap out envelopes.
That's chain of custody
And the whole process takes lots of time.
in a hypothetical town of 1000 voters with 100% voter turnout, we can have a voter roll that is checked off as people cast their ballots into a secure box. if the chain of custody of that secure box is broken, it can simply be replaced with another visually indistinguishable box containing 1000 different ballots. no way to know the switch happened. especially if observers are prevented from watching things.
And so there's lots of opportunities for shenanigans.
All voting mechanisms require a chain of custody
We have observers
these florida counties are not using anything particularly sophisticated. pieces of heavy paper in off-the-shelf plastic bins.
Which is why banning the press is very scary Cat
I've seen magic tricks. I don't trust observers sitting there for hours to notice everything.
What would you suggest then? Video surveillance?
I do not understand what is happening in Broward County
if they know that bin #47 has 2684 ballots in it, they can just swap it out with another identical bin with that many fake ballots.
Only if there is a break in the chain of custody
they can do this inside one of their rented commercial trucks
I mean...fraud? It at-least looks suspicious. And Snipes has been caught before. Many, many times.
Like I said above, create procedures and follow them