Message from @Zeppelin

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2018-11-13 16:42:19 UTC  

AK-47s were actually hazardous to the Soviets, so the AKM quickly took it's place in 1959.

2018-11-13 16:42:28 UTC  

Hazardous?

2018-11-13 16:42:29 UTC  

AKMs, PKs, PKMs, RPKs, AK74s, RPK74s

2018-11-13 16:42:51 UTC  

Yes, those are Soviet machine gun patterns.

2018-11-13 16:43:00 UTC  

Yes, apparently there were quite a few flaws with the AK-47, that not many notice.

2018-11-13 16:43:10 UTC  

Heavy and inaccurate?

2018-11-13 16:43:47 UTC  

The milled receiver was bulky and the barrel would wobble when it fired.

2018-11-13 16:44:21 UTC  

Is that any worse than the M16A1’s stupidly delicate firing mechanism?

2018-11-13 16:44:43 UTC  

AK-47s broke apart after a few hundred rounds and most failed QC at the factory, they were replaced with AK-49s (Forged Receivers) and those proved unsatisfactory, and were replaced with what we call type 3 receivers.

2018-11-13 16:44:54 UTC  

Got it.

2018-11-13 16:45:07 UTC  

Damn, you really know your firearms.

2018-11-13 16:45:41 UTC  

I’m jealous that I’ve been out-trivia’ed.

2018-11-13 16:45:46 UTC  

Technical Specialist.

2018-11-13 16:46:06 UTC  

You’re a consultant?

2018-11-13 16:46:06 UTC  

I tought classes on this while I was in the Army

2018-11-13 16:46:11 UTC  

Got it.

2018-11-13 16:46:19 UTC  

The M16 was the epic fail of American rifles. The M16A1 was an improvement.

2018-11-13 16:46:27 UTC  

Sorry, I didn’t mean to challenge your expertise.

2018-11-13 16:46:58 UTC  

Wasn’t it the M16A2 that was the improvement in Vietnam?

2018-11-13 16:47:18 UTC  

no, M16A2 was in the late 70s early 80s

2018-11-13 16:47:30 UTC  

47s and its generation has been cycled out at this point though. Pretty sure there's a whole lot of them rusting in abandoned stockpiles now

2018-11-13 16:47:34 UTC  

The M16A1 was in service by 1968.

2018-11-13 16:47:36 UTC  

After NATO adopted the 5.56NATO

2018-11-13 16:47:43 UTC  

The A1 was the model that only had burst fire, right?

2018-11-13 16:48:01 UTC  

No, it had semi and full-auto.

2018-11-13 16:48:01 UTC  

A2 are burst, A1 full auto

2018-11-13 16:48:06 UTC  

Got it.

2018-11-13 16:48:32 UTC  

Weren’t automatic M1 Carbines also being used in Vietnam?

2018-11-13 16:48:37 UTC  

Yes.

2018-11-13 16:48:44 UTC  

Also used in Korea.

2018-11-13 16:49:15 UTC  

I’m a history major, so historical weaponry interests me.

2018-11-13 16:49:36 UTC  

M1s by then were upgraded to M2s but yes they were used by MAC-V and MAC-V supplied RoVA units

2018-11-13 16:50:11 UTC  

@Khanclansith If you don’t mind my asking, where did you serve while in the Army?

2018-11-13 16:51:08 UTC  

I was a headquarters monkey out at Shafter for 3 and half years, and I was in HHBN 10th Mountain Division.

2018-11-13 16:51:23 UTC  

Got it.

2018-11-13 16:51:55 UTC  

Even after the AK-74 (5.45X39mm) was in service, the AKM was still used until the late 80s, if I remember correctly.

2018-11-13 16:52:39 UTC  

In 1986, the AKS-74U carbine was made and was used by Russian tank crews and paratroopers and is still used today.

2018-11-13 16:52:52 UTC  

AKMs never completely left service, They were in the last lines of mobilization and remain so to this day in the Soviet sucessor states.

2018-11-13 16:53:16 UTC  

Well, I figured that I was wrong.

2018-11-13 16:54:30 UTC  

It is hard to translate Soviet moblization orders to US and NATO counterparts because everything was put in the MOs.

2018-11-13 16:54:43 UTC  

I bet.