Message from @Pyro

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2018-11-21 01:18:22 UTC  

It's gone through phases. 20 years ago the right was authoritarian.

2018-11-21 01:18:33 UTC  

This is from the perspective of someone who has been on the working end of hate from those who affiliate with the right

2018-11-21 01:18:36 UTC  

It was very religious and puritanical.

2018-11-21 01:18:39 UTC  

Just like the left is now

2018-11-21 01:19:01 UTC  

well maybe not puritanical

2018-11-21 01:19:17 UTC  

You don't think?

2018-11-21 01:19:55 UTC  

About following a strict ideology and maintaining the status quo unless you're ousted and destroyed.

2018-11-21 01:19:57 UTC  

pretty sure slut walks arent pure

2018-11-21 01:20:10 UTC  

pu·ri·tan·i·cal
/ˌpyo͝orəˈtanək(ə)l/
adjectiveDEROGATORY
practicing or affecting strict religious or moral behavior.

2018-11-21 01:20:31 UTC  

Depends on what one thinks is moral.

2018-11-21 01:20:43 UTC  

They think dressing up 6 years old in drag is moral.

2018-11-21 01:20:57 UTC  

yea you got me there

2018-11-21 01:21:20 UTC  

it's hard to square left-wing redistributive economics with libertarianism.

2018-11-21 01:21:25 UTC  

And if you say something about it, you get owen benjamin'd

2018-11-21 01:21:53 UTC  

>extremeism is never good
I find this phrase misused everyday. How do you even define "extremism"?

2018-11-21 01:22:05 UTC  

considering left-wing economics requires the government to have complete control of your fiscal life

2018-11-21 01:22:20 UTC  

I understand it this way because I used to be a lefty when it was the devil's advocate. When it was against the status quo. But I was also young and incredibly stupid.

2018-11-21 01:22:29 UTC  

I'm not left economically, I'm left because they historically have defended the rights to individual liberty to live and love as we wish

2018-11-21 01:22:44 UTC  

oh yea i was a democrat back in senior year of high school

2018-11-21 01:22:45 UTC  

@DrYuriMom I disagree

2018-11-21 01:23:08 UTC  

then my folks actually talked to me about politics and i had no explanation for why i was a democrat

2018-11-21 01:23:20 UTC  

Historically yes, @DrYuriMom which is why people like Dave Rubin classify it at classical liberalism.

2018-11-21 01:23:24 UTC  

I believe in economic liberty

2018-11-21 01:23:26 UTC  

the Conservatives are the ones with the motto, live and let live. Whatever you choose to do in your private life, it's for you to decide

2018-11-21 01:23:28 UTC  

Modern liberalism is anti liberty.

2018-11-21 01:23:34 UTC  

^

2018-11-21 01:23:42 UTC  

I also believe in personal liberty

2018-11-21 01:23:45 UTC  

It's about freedom for some but not for all

2018-11-21 01:24:08 UTC  

if you are rich you are punished for being successful

2018-11-21 01:24:11 UTC  

you can't really believe in economic and personal liberty and be on the left 🤔
can you?

2018-11-21 01:24:33 UTC  

if you are poor you are rewarded for just being poor

2018-11-21 01:24:44 UTC  

Because I'm a woman married to a woman, those in power on the right hate me and those in power on the left fought for my right to marry.

2018-11-21 01:24:44 UTC  

Now I don't dilute myself into thinking the conservatives really believe in freedom for all. They're shutting down a lot of things for trans people simply because they don't hold a greater share of the population. But I also just don't care. I do think the majority wins out.

2018-11-21 01:25:09 UTC  

@DrYuriMom why is the right to marry important to you?

2018-11-21 01:25:18 UTC  

those in power on the right don't care about your relationships.

2018-11-21 01:25:18 UTC  

Fortunately there are men like Ted Olson who believe in personal liberty even if it's not popular on the right

2018-11-21 01:25:42 UTC  

Well, until a few years ago they fought very hard to keep me from being married

2018-11-21 01:25:51 UTC  

I think the state should be removed from "marriage"

2018-11-21 01:25:57 UTC  

and those people were pushed out because they're out-of-touch losers.

2018-11-21 01:26:05 UTC  

the religious right is stone dead.

2018-11-21 01:26:06 UTC  

They still have a lot of power