I'm not left economically, I'm left because they historically have defended the rights to individual liberty to live and love as we wish

oh yea i was a democrat back in senior year of high school

@DrYuriMom I disagree

then my folks actually talked to me about politics and i had no explanation for why i was a democrat

Historically yes, @DrYuriMom which is why people like Dave Rubin classify it at classical liberalism.

I believe in economic liberty

the Conservatives are the ones with the motto, live and let live. Whatever you choose to do in your private life, it's for you to decide

Modern liberalism is anti liberty.

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I also believe in personal liberty

It's about freedom for some but not for all

if you are rich you are punished for being successful

you can't really believe in economic and personal liberty and be on the left 🤔
can you?

if you are poor you are rewarded for just being poor

Because I'm a woman married to a woman, those in power on the right hate me and those in power on the left fought for my right to marry.

Now I don't dilute myself into thinking the conservatives really believe in freedom for all. They're shutting down a lot of things for trans people simply because they don't hold a greater share of the population. But I also just don't care. I do think the majority wins out.

@DrYuriMom why is the right to marry important to you?

those in power on the right don't care about your relationships.

Fortunately there are men like Ted Olson who believe in personal liberty even if it's not popular on the right

Well, until a few years ago they fought very hard to keep me from being married

I think the state should be removed from "marriage"

and those people were pushed out because they're out-of-touch losers.

the religious right is stone dead.

They still have a lot of power

I wish

honestly i dont understand why its an issue to be gay, as long as others dont affect my life i dont care what they do

>the religious right is stone dead.
as someone that is right-wing. I "pray" everyday that that is true

its not

But aren't you being a little normie about this, Cat? I do think the republicans are just using this time to gain ground and say they are for everyone's freedom. But this deception is still better than the demacrats honestly speaking what they want for the future. It's unregulated insanity that can't hold up in a structured world.

I hope it becomes true in the future

honestly im not sure about that, i think its fine for people to believe things as long as they dont force their beliefs

i would like to see specific examples of sitting republicans threatening gay rights - and not merely advocating that it should be a state issue.

Everyone who fought to defend DOMA were arguing that the federal gov't should deny recognition of same-sex marriages for federal reasons including joint taxes

I know it'll warrant screams of straw-man, but I don't trust the left enough to give them things and not have it be mandate a day later. They're children. They've devolved into babies that when they get what they want, they want more.

I'm not a Democrat. just for the record

I am registered as an Independent in my state

is anybody actually democrat or GOP these days lol

i registered as a republican

i mean with core issues you believe it all.

I'll be honest, I don't think same-sex couples should get advantages that were put in place because in the old days marriages meant reproduction

if you consider yourself center-anything, you're neither