Message from @zero_consequences

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2018-11-21 01:16:00 UTC  

also im pretty sure left or right doesnt matter with authoritarianism

2018-11-21 01:16:01 UTC  

I bet there's people that disagree here, so let's wait a bit

2018-11-21 01:16:40 UTC  

This is where the left/right simplification falls down

2018-11-21 01:16:45 UTC  

because I think that if this fact gets out in the wild. Most of the outrage from the left loses it's edge

2018-11-21 01:16:53 UTC  

look at the Philippines, duarte kills people committing a crime without due process

2018-11-21 01:17:06 UTC  

extremeism is never good

2018-11-21 01:17:17 UTC  

There are many people who are on the left for libertarian reasons

2018-11-21 01:17:29 UTC  

It more or less does. Don't ancaps fall in the furthest right, and ancommie the exact opposite

2018-11-21 01:17:57 UTC  

As i have explained a lot here, for many the right is authoritarian and the left is the end of personal liberty

2018-11-21 01:18:14 UTC  

isnt that the same thing?

2018-11-21 01:18:22 UTC  

It's gone through phases. 20 years ago the right was authoritarian.

2018-11-21 01:18:33 UTC  

This is from the perspective of someone who has been on the working end of hate from those who affiliate with the right

2018-11-21 01:18:36 UTC  

It was very religious and puritanical.

2018-11-21 01:18:39 UTC  

Just like the left is now

2018-11-21 01:19:01 UTC  

well maybe not puritanical

2018-11-21 01:19:17 UTC  

You don't think?

2018-11-21 01:19:55 UTC  

About following a strict ideology and maintaining the status quo unless you're ousted and destroyed.

2018-11-21 01:19:57 UTC  

pretty sure slut walks arent pure

2018-11-21 01:20:10 UTC  

pu·ri·tan·i·cal
/ˌpyo͝orəˈtanək(ə)l/
adjectiveDEROGATORY
practicing or affecting strict religious or moral behavior.

2018-11-21 01:20:31 UTC  

Depends on what one thinks is moral.

2018-11-21 01:20:43 UTC  

They think dressing up 6 years old in drag is moral.

2018-11-21 01:20:57 UTC  

yea you got me there

2018-11-21 01:21:20 UTC  

it's hard to square left-wing redistributive economics with libertarianism.

2018-11-21 01:21:25 UTC  

And if you say something about it, you get owen benjamin'd

2018-11-21 01:21:53 UTC  

>extremeism is never good
I find this phrase misused everyday. How do you even define "extremism"?

2018-11-21 01:22:05 UTC  

considering left-wing economics requires the government to have complete control of your fiscal life

2018-11-21 01:22:20 UTC  

I understand it this way because I used to be a lefty when it was the devil's advocate. When it was against the status quo. But I was also young and incredibly stupid.

2018-11-21 01:22:29 UTC  

I'm not left economically, I'm left because they historically have defended the rights to individual liberty to live and love as we wish

2018-11-21 01:22:44 UTC  

oh yea i was a democrat back in senior year of high school

2018-11-21 01:22:45 UTC  

@DrYuriMom I disagree

2018-11-21 01:23:08 UTC  

then my folks actually talked to me about politics and i had no explanation for why i was a democrat

2018-11-21 01:23:20 UTC  

Historically yes, @DrYuriMom which is why people like Dave Rubin classify it at classical liberalism.

2018-11-21 01:23:24 UTC  

I believe in economic liberty

2018-11-21 01:23:26 UTC  

the Conservatives are the ones with the motto, live and let live. Whatever you choose to do in your private life, it's for you to decide

2018-11-21 01:23:28 UTC  

Modern liberalism is anti liberty.

2018-11-21 01:23:34 UTC  

^

2018-11-21 01:23:42 UTC  

I also believe in personal liberty

2018-11-21 01:23:45 UTC  

It's about freedom for some but not for all

2018-11-21 01:24:08 UTC  

if you are rich you are punished for being successful

2018-11-21 01:24:11 UTC  

you can't really believe in economic and personal liberty and be on the left 🤔
can you?

2018-11-21 01:24:33 UTC  

if you are poor you are rewarded for just being poor