Message from @JoeNoChill

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2018-11-25 00:47:18 UTC  

Why must the id not be allowed if the only arguements against it have a slippery slope

2018-11-25 00:50:11 UTC  

Because without Voter ID Laws that are checked and cross referenced with other organs of Gouvernment, you can't cheat and let illegals vote

2018-11-25 00:50:48 UTC  

because that would not be possible as it would have been prevented by the Citizen Register thingy...

2018-11-25 00:52:33 UTC  

We already have a register

2018-11-25 00:52:54 UTC  

Social Security?

2018-11-25 00:54:01 UTC  

No, the voter registry. You have to register to vote.

2018-11-25 00:54:43 UTC  

When you show up there is a list of registered voters and you sign in by your name.

2018-11-25 01:03:41 UTC  

I've only voted like 3 times and in all three times they ask for ID, drivers license or social security.

2018-11-25 01:04:11 UTC  

And before then I had to register. So why the talk about voter ID?

2018-11-25 01:04:45 UTC  

Is there any inherent security that comes with that?

2018-11-25 01:06:03 UTC  

didn't think of that that is a good talking point

2018-11-25 01:13:03 UTC  

What I'm saying is that if there are already people who can fake IDs then there are people who can fake voter id

2018-11-25 01:15:30 UTC  

That's why IDs need better security measures implemented

2018-11-25 01:16:13 UTC  

The problem with voter registration is a lot of places simply don't check up on it

2018-11-25 01:16:35 UTC  

and if you can't verify the person who is claiming to be someone, then it is easy to have impersonators

2018-11-25 01:17:07 UTC  

I remember before they implemented voter ID in my state, you could literally walk into the place and just write your name on a piece of paper and vote

2018-11-25 01:17:29 UTC  

I could go in and vote under my neighbor's name if I wanted and nobody could say anything about it

2018-11-25 01:18:00 UTC  

I could go from polling center to polling center and have no hindrance on claiming to be someone from each place if I wanted to

2018-11-25 01:18:20 UTC  

now that we have voter ID, I have to show them identification or I can't vote

2018-11-25 01:31:22 UTC  

Oh now THATS a problem.

2018-11-25 01:32:01 UTC  

I don't see why not having verification is so bad. Atleast in the level we have in Florida

2018-11-25 01:35:09 UTC  

There are a lot of incompetent people running polling centers. Anything that will force them to actually verify that an election is being performed legitimately I will fullheartedly support.

2018-11-25 01:38:57 UTC  

In Florida they just ask for your id. They scan it, you sign something on thier touch screen and they ask you to wait for them to print your ballot. They print it you show them your id again and that's it. It's a simple process that I think should be more widespread

2018-11-25 01:39:37 UTC  

That's exactly how they do it here in MS. It's very straightforward and not any more invasive than buying a beer

2018-11-25 01:40:05 UTC  

Are there any places in particular that have these loopholes?

2018-11-25 01:40:19 UTC  

You should see the dim bulbs running the Board of Elections where I live. Lucas Co, Ohio.

2018-11-25 01:40:27 UTC  

No I mean we do it the same here as you do in FL

2018-11-25 01:40:40 UTC  

we don't have the security problems we had back before the voter ID law

2018-11-25 01:41:12 UTC  

I understand, what I ask is what kinds of places have you seen this incompetence mentioned before

2018-11-25 01:42:06 UTC  

everywhere. I lived in a different voting district than my friends and they all said the same things I saw

2018-11-25 01:42:17 UTC  

No one actually acknowledges most incompetence. In fact, it's often intentionally ignored and denied.

2018-11-25 01:42:34 UTC  

I asked them if they had anyone verifying the names and they all said no

2018-11-25 01:42:43 UTC  

Particularly incompetence in low-level local government departments and agencies.

2018-11-25 01:42:48 UTC  

but once the voter ID law was passed, you can't get a ballot until you show your ID

2018-11-25 01:43:02 UTC  

and it's scanned

2018-11-25 01:43:03 UTC  

Of course not. They probably looked at you like your head was tacked on sideways when you asked it.

2018-11-25 01:43:55 UTC  

We have a form of Voter ID in Ohio, but it isn't consistently enforced across all counties statewide,

2018-11-25 01:43:56 UTC  

That kind of incompetence worry's me. These kinds of faults should be corrected. What would be the best way to correct this?

2018-11-25 01:44:09 UTC  

Really the only way to correct it is to report it

2018-11-25 01:44:15 UTC  

but you know how that goes