Message from @Cody
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are you for people working or against?
Punish them for hiring people who do not have the right to work in the US
For working, against hiring those who do not have the legal right to work here
i don't know if the company should be the one punished for the crimes of an individual.
It takes two to commit this crime, both the worker willing to be payed below the minimum wage, and the employer who pays it
well that is different to what i was saying, which is to remove min wage.
But idk if its better to have a minimum wage or not
Right, it sure does simplify things i suppose
if you remove that, then what crime has a company really committed besides ones made up to catch the individual.
There wouldnt be any crime, if there were no minimum wage
I dont think that's a major issue
Isn't the plausibility of no minimum wage, the contention?
I don't think min wage is necessary. its too static and slow changing.
Just like Congress *smacks knee*
i mean, the government is slow moving by design.
if anything, its designed to fight itself for power and not really get anything done.
its supposed to be the states who really do things
And rightfully so, i would expect the federal government to properly establish viable ordinances in every county
In a nationwide manner
But anyways i suppose it comes down to whether the lack of a minimum wage benefits the majority of the citizens
Think about it, having no minimum wage would not incentivize hiring Americans
An American still looks to progression in their wage
An illegal, would work for the same small amount forever if they could
It would just lead to actual Americans seeing wages fall, and it wouldn't solve the illegal workers problem
The minimum wage was never even the problem to begin with
It was illegal immigrants working for less than minimum wage
We need to punish companies who hire illegal immigrants, and decentivize them in those feilds
It would force companies to pay competitive wages, and then we could lower the minimum wage
But as it stands, lowering the minimum wage wont actually fix anything, and getting rid of it would just cause unnecessary civil unrest
why would it?
it hasn't raised in forever
to get it where it is supposed ot be would be to jump to like 10-15 and hour
its been devaluing itself for a while now
I think you missed my point just a bit
But maybe I explained it poorly?
Minimum wage is primarily a market distortion. It leads to reduced employment. End of story.
And the story continues
It tends to be used as the classic example of how price floors cause a drop in the quantity supplied and lead to worse outcomes.
not to mention, it does not account for things like healthcare or providing for schooling.