Message from @H E C K

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2018-11-30 16:06:35 UTC  

yeah that really is a stupid concept

2018-11-30 16:07:05 UTC  

anyone should have the ability to migrate but that doesn't mean everyone can migrate

2018-11-30 16:12:45 UTC  

>implying Russians will ever leave

2018-11-30 16:12:57 UTC  
2018-11-30 16:20:19 UTC  

You guys in the EU need to leave, country and all, as soon as possible.

2018-11-30 16:21:04 UTC  

I may be stating the obvious but whatever

2018-11-30 16:21:40 UTC  

Leave regulatory body, keep trade

2018-11-30 16:30:05 UTC  

@H E C K you mean leave the EU? or migrate to other countries?

2018-11-30 16:30:16 UTC  

I don't think any countries are going to get out. The UK has gone as far as it can.

2018-11-30 16:30:27 UTC  

It'll be pulled back in.

2018-11-30 16:30:59 UTC  

If you are a EU citizen you need to emigrate. Start the process now.

2018-11-30 16:31:10 UTC  

that's what I did

2018-11-30 16:31:19 UTC  

Eventually they won't let you leave.

2018-11-30 16:33:24 UTC  

because specially my country, they would never leave

2018-11-30 16:35:39 UTC  

wasting energy into politics to make it happen would be a waste of time

2018-11-30 16:51:13 UTC  

@.B a mix of both, really. I know you say it would be a waste of time, but it may be one of the few ways to reduce their influence and power

2018-11-30 16:52:08 UTC  

maybe for other people. In my country everyone is a socialist

2018-11-30 16:52:22 UTC  

for someone that is a conservative, the fight is a waste of time

2018-11-30 16:52:49 UTC  

they will ruin your life and you won't get anything done

2018-11-30 16:52:55 UTC  

the population also doesn't want anything you advocate for

2018-11-30 16:53:37 UTC  

Traditionally, socialists should be against the EU. They're a capitalist organization controlled by the elite, which should be everything the socialists hate. Just frame the EU this way when debating with them

2018-11-30 16:54:04 UTC  

Hell, I'm on the left myself and I don't like the EU

2018-11-30 16:54:19 UTC  

At least not in its current state

2018-11-30 17:00:02 UTC  

are you European?

2018-11-30 17:00:18 UTC  

the EU is in no way "capitalist"

2018-11-30 17:00:54 UTC  

most companies in my home country survive from EU money or government money

2018-11-30 17:01:02 UTC  

they don't even tackle the market

2018-11-30 17:01:33 UTC  

high taxes and regulations also means you can't compete with the big players

2018-11-30 17:19:00 UTC  

High taxes, regulations and social programs don't constitute socialism. That's just social democracy, which is what we have here in Canada. Private businesses are still allowed to operate independently from the government and wealth isn't redistributed

2018-11-30 17:22:48 UTC  

"allowed to operate independently" kinda

2018-11-30 17:22:58 UTC  

"wealth isn't redistributed" arguable

2018-11-30 17:48:07 UTC  

Canadian system is shite tbh. Small business gets fucked daily

2018-11-30 17:52:43 UTC  

@Beemann agreed. Our liberal and conservative parties seem to value large corporations more, one of the few things they have in common

2018-11-30 17:53:20 UTC  

Our social welfare systems are going to fall apart soon too tbh

2018-11-30 17:53:39 UTC  

Government asks more and outputs less every year

2018-11-30 17:53:51 UTC  

@.B It isn't redistributed to the degree that everyone has an equal amount of wealth (except the individual(s) at the top of the system)

2018-11-30 17:54:11 UTC  

no shit

2018-11-30 17:54:13 UTC  

There are higher taxes for wealthier people but that's the case in most countries

2018-11-30 17:54:41 UTC  

nah, if you have kids you don't have to work a day in your life

2018-11-30 17:55:03 UTC  

Wot

2018-11-30 17:55:17 UTC  

yep, that's a thing