Message from @.B

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2018-12-15 23:24:17 UTC  

Just a personal addendum. Oppression is not dependent on slavery.

2018-12-15 23:29:10 UTC  

Of course not

2018-12-15 23:30:05 UTC  

A slave can actually have rather a lot of agency.

2018-12-15 23:31:35 UTC  

And a free man can be horribly oppressed

2018-12-15 23:35:21 UTC  

In my country we had the Stavnsbรฅnd.

2018-12-15 23:36:03 UTC  

Is that a guy shoving something up that cow's butt?

2018-12-15 23:36:09 UTC  

sicko

2018-12-15 23:36:59 UTC  

Its a plow, the cow is pulling

2018-12-16 01:49:15 UTC  

It's faster than ๐“ƒ

2018-12-16 01:51:34 UTC  

But you have to have a ๐“ƒ“

2018-12-16 07:38:50 UTC  
2018-12-16 10:06:52 UTC  

grilllllllllllllled

2018-12-16 10:41:59 UTC  

orange man bad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/523812026406141952/orange_man_bad.jpg

2018-12-16 15:05:33 UTC  

People are still talking about E;R smh

2018-12-16 15:05:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/523878378781016067/Screenshot_20181216-070455_Twitter.jpg

2018-12-16 15:06:29 UTC  

Also, why does JEFF believe HuffPo as a secondary source, but not this guy? <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2018-12-16 16:26:43 UTC  

who said "I'm a nazi"?

2018-12-16 16:26:55 UTC  

who is he even quoting?

2018-12-16 16:27:14 UTC  

Jeff always been an idiot, it's not like I'm surprised tbh

2018-12-16 16:29:27 UTC  

National socialist =/= Nazi. That said, national socialism is easily abused - just look at China and quite likely Russia depending on how their current kleptocracy evolves.

2018-12-16 16:30:03 UTC  

I think Trump's dream is national socialism but he most certainly is not a Nazi.

2018-12-16 16:30:47 UTC  

Trump is far from a socialist.

2018-12-16 16:31:06 UTC  

I think he'd like to be. His reflexes are certainly in that direction.

2018-12-16 16:31:59 UTC  

He just wants to erase everything Obama ever did. When he talks about replacing it with something, he talks some pretty socialist stuff. The congress the past two years just wouldn't give it to him.

2018-12-16 16:32:35 UTC  

But his socialism is nationalist, not communist, in nature.

2018-12-16 16:33:00 UTC  

When he says he supports universal healthcare? It's a social policy but far from socialist.

2018-12-16 16:34:06 UTC  

Universal healthcare, especially when you guarantee equal rates with pre-existing conditions, is gonna end up being highly government-involved. Whether by ownership or regulation.

2018-12-16 16:34:23 UTC  

He also supports social security and medicare

2018-12-16 16:34:53 UTC  

universal healthcare could be good
or it could be horrible
it all depends on whether they tackle the hard problems around cost and pricing
( they won't, there is a reason the investment portfolios on the hill do so well)

2018-12-16 16:35:05 UTC  

He advocates for a $1 trillion infrastructure initiative coordinated if not paid for by the government.

2018-12-16 16:36:05 UTC  

If he started talking about complete redistribution of wealth and workers taking the means of production I'd agree but at the end of the day he's a capitalist (also socialists don't lower taxes).

2018-12-16 16:36:12 UTC  

He keeps talking about what "he" will do, meaning the government, and taking credit for it. Not the market. Not entrepreneurs. But him, himself, as president.

2018-12-16 16:37:07 UTC  

Communists are about complete redistribution of wealth and workers taking the means of production. Socialists are about government directing, either by ownership or regulation, the flow of wealth.

2018-12-16 16:38:10 UTC  

When I say socialist, I am talking about socialism in the sense of western Europe and even 1930's Germany. The government didn't own everything, they just gave it to people who would do what they wanted and regulated the hell out of it.

2018-12-16 16:38:22 UTC  

I imagine any socialist you'd talk to would say Trump is far from being a socialist.

2018-12-16 16:40:08 UTC  

National socialism is very different from Marxist socialism. One has as it's guiding star benefiting individuals collectively - whether or not they ever achieve it is another story. National socialists are all about the state. Glorify and better the state and everything trickles down. In both cases, government either owns or heavy directs production and wealth distribution.

2018-12-16 16:40:23 UTC  

National socialism was a response to marxist socialism

2018-12-16 16:40:58 UTC  

Would Trump deregulating tons of things fall under that? I think not.