Gender is a linguistic concept.

The brain doesn't innately know gender.

Then why do we have kids kill themselves over it?

That poor kid in that terrible experiment

Are we already going to suicide?

Record time.

Boy made a girl as an experiment due to a circumcision accident

What about the fact that transition actually INCREASES suicide rate?

Statistically speaking.

Not really.

Oh wait

You're talking about David Reimer.

Yes

Again, the brain knows what it knows

Yeah, can't easily forget child abuse.

My point is that sorry incident actually makes clear that gender exists. The brain knows. And it may not match the anatomy.

What about Brian, though?

You're missing an important link in that example.

His brother Od'd on antidepressants, himself.

What point are you trying to make with David?

Because it's not as self explanatory as you seem to think it is.

I'm making the point that the brain knows. You can't condition gender. It's innate.

That comes across as gibberish. Make your point in more detail.

I don't buy this fluid idea that there's no such thing.

Men are not women. Women are not men.

There's not. There's biological sex, there's self-image, and there's self-expression.

David know he was a man despite having female anatomy

And various other things.

I knew I was a woman despite having male anatomy

He did not have female anatomy.

He was born male.

Yes, but they feminized his anatomy after the accident

He was told he was a girl. His body was that of a girl.

But his brain knew better

And forced to hold sexual positions with his brother at an early age to reinforce that.

I don't defend the experiment

It was trying to prove a morally bankrupt idea.

You don't give it any credit for fucking the two of them up, either.

We can agree, there.

Um, I think I just did

No, you cited the gender aspect. Not the sexual child abuse aspect.